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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 14:48:35 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jim Brock <JimJoanJoy...> [SoWestLep] <SoWestLep-noreply...>
Subject: Re: [SoWestLep] Painted Lady Migration

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Robert,
There might be some literature on this subject. I have personally seen Red =
Admiral's and Common buckeyes flying with the cardui movement in the Virgin=
Mountains of Arizona.
My question is, does anybody know if anybody is looking at the reverse migr=
ation of cardui in the fall in North America? I suspect there could be a le=
ss massive return of cardui to some points south (Mexico?) like they do in =
Europe where they head south from Scandinavia to northern Africa.
Jim B


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From: ROBERT GORMAN <gorboy...> [SoWestLep] <SoWestLep-noreply@yah=
oogroups.com>
To: SoWestLep <SoWestLep...>
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: [SoWestLep] Painted Lady Migration

=C2=A0 Paul, Thousands or Probably hundreds of thousands today going thr=
ough Orange County today. I Could count on shrubs by fives and Tens that th=
ere were more than fifty getting a Drink at a time. Clouds nonstop for seve=
ral hours starting around nine with peak at about 2pm. Do you or anybody ou=
t there know how far they go when they migrate. Also it seems as the West C=
oast Ladies, Red Admirals, American Ladies Were absent today at local hillt=
ops Wonder Why. Do they Get Caught up in all this and go north also? I have=
read that at times one in fifty or a Hundred is said to be a Tortoise Shel=
l? Thanks Paul, Bob
On Monday, March 11, 2019, 7:07:03 PM PDT, Paul Russell <maliboo@verizo=
n.net> wrote:=20=20
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Thanks, still light here, but it has been cold with clouds, wind and occas=
ional rain.Paul
Paul <Russellmaliboo...>



On Mar 11, 2019, at 3:52 PM, ROBERT GORMAN <gorboy...> wrote:
Paul, out in Borrego Desert Near Corizo Wash on the S-2 hwy near Ocotillo =
California at times there were 30 Plus at one time passing us making us alm=
ost Dizzy trying to walk, lots of larva on Lupin of Panted ladies, also Hug=
e White Lined Sphinx larva. The Largest I have ever yet seen Mowing the flo=
wers down, this super bloom may be over in lower elevations by this coming =
weekend. the Washes and Hill sides are Blooming Mountain Palm Springs in Bo=
rrego Desert Seemed like it avoided the frost and snows of other area's was=
more Sheltered an lots more flying. Warm and sunny even on sunday the Tent=
h when it was said to be cloudy!=C2=A0
On Thursday, March 7, 2019, 8:10:54 PM PST, Paul Russell maliboo@verizo=
n.net [SoWestLep] <SoWestLep-noreply...> wrote:=20=20
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=C2=A0 Today (March 7) in Santa Barbara we observed what may be the vangu=
ard of a mass migration of Painted Ladies, all heading west. Numbers were s=
everal per minute, which is still light, but we hadn=E2=80=99t seen even a =
singleton for some time. Have others to the east of us seen this, and how a=
bundant are they?
Paul Russell
<maliboo...>

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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'2' face=3D'arial'>Robert,
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<div>There might be some literature on this subject. I have personally seen=
Red Admiral's and Common buckeyes flying with the cardui movement in the V=
irgin Mountains of Arizona.</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>My question is, does anybody know if anybody is looking at the reverse=
migration of cardui in the fall in North America? I suspect there could be=
a less massive return of cardui to some points south (Mexico?) like they d=
o in Europe where they head south from Scandinavia to northern Africa.</div=
>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>Jim B<br>
<br>
<br>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: ROBERT GORMAN <gorboy...> [SoWestLep] &lt;SoWestLep-noreply@=
yahoogroups.com&gt;<br>
To: SoWestLep &lt;<SoWestLep...>&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 7:00 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [SoWestLep] Painted Lady Migration<br>
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Orange County today. I Could count on shrubs by fives and Tens that there w=
ere more than fifty getting a Drink at a time. Clouds nonstop for several h=
ours starting around nine with peak at about 2pm. Do you or anybody out the=
re know how far they go when they migrate. Also it seems as the West Coast =
Ladies, Red Admirals, American Ladies Were absent today at local hilltops W=
onder Why. Do they Get Caught up in all this and go north also? I have read=
that at times one in fifty or a Hundred is said to be a Tortoise Shell? Th=
anks Paul, Bob</div>

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On Monday, March 11, 2019, 7:07:03 PM PDT, Paul Russell=
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<div>Thanks, still light here, but it has been cold with clouds, wind and o=
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re were 30 Plus at one time passing us making us almost Dizzy trying to wal=
k, lots of larva on Lupin of Panted ladies, also Huge White Lined Sphinx la=
rva. The Largest I have ever yet seen Mowing the flowers down, this super b=
loom may be over in lower elevations by this coming weekend. the Washes and=
Hill sides are Blooming Mountain Palm Springs in Borrego Desert Seemed lik=
e it avoided the frost and snows of other area's was more Sheltered an lots=
more flying. Warm and sunny even on sunday the Tenth when it was said to b=
e cloudy!&nbsp;</div>

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