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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 17:01:10 +0000 (UTC)
From: ROBERT GORMAN <gorboy...> [SoWestLep] <SoWestLep-noreply...>
Subject: Re: [SoWestLep] Painted Lady Migration

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Thanks Jim Great Information its so hard to sort out what all is in the gr=
oup but the area i was in they were lots of Painted ladies stopping to sip =
nectar Massive blooms and lots of new looking Painted ladies sipping on Pro=
bably every flower that was there fiddle necks, mustard , man root or wild =
cucumber invasive daisies the hills and flats are covered in blooms And yes=
they are stopping to eat and yes they fly fast! after a snack!=C2=A0
O=
n Wednesday, March 13, 2019, 8:40:47 AM PDT, Jim Brock <JimJoanJoy...> [=
SoWestLep] <SoWestLep-noreply...> wrote:

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Robert=
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There might be some literature on this subject. I have personally seen R=
ed Admiral's and Common buckeyes flying with the cardui movement in the Vir=
gin Mountains of Arizona.
My question is, does anybody know if anybody is l=
ooking at the reverse migration of cardui in the fall in North America? I s=
uspect there could be a less massive return of cardui to some points south =
(Mexico?) like they do in Europe where they head south from Scandinavia to =
northern Africa.
Jim B


-----Original Message-----
From: ROBERT GORMAN gor=
<boy...> [SoWestLep] <SoWestLep-noreply...>
To: SoWes=
tLep <SoWestLep...>
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 7:00 pm
Subject: R=
e: [SoWestLep] Painted Lady Migration

=C2=A0 Paul, Thousands or Probabl=
y hundreds of thousands today going through Orange County today. I Could co=
unt on shrubs by fives and Tens that there were more than fifty getting a D=
rink at a time. Clouds nonstop for several hours starting around nine with =
peak at about 2pm. Do you or anybody out there know how far they go when th=
ey migrate. Also it seems as the West Coast Ladies, Red Admirals, American =
Ladies Were absent today at local hilltops Wonder Why. Do they Get Caught u=
p in all this and go north also? I have read that at times one in fifty or =
a Hundred is said to be a Tortoise Shell? Thanks Paul, Bob
On Monday, M=
arch 11, 2019, 7:07:03 PM PDT, Paul Russell <maliboo...> wrote:
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Thanks, still light here, but it has been cold with clouds, wind and occ=
asional rain.Paul
Paul <Russellmaliboo...>



On Mar 11, 2019, at 3:=
52 PM, ROBERT GORMAN <gorboy...> wrote:
Paul, out in Borrego De=
sert Near Corizo Wash on the S-2 hwy near Ocotillo California at times ther=
e were 30 Plus at one time passing us making us almost Dizzy trying to walk=
, lots of larva on Lupin of Panted ladies, also Huge White Lined Sphinx lar=
va. The Largest I have ever yet seen Mowing the flowers down, this super bl=
oom may be over in lower elevations by this coming weekend. the Washes and =
Hill sides are Blooming Mountain Palm Springs in Borrego Desert Seemed like=
it avoided the frost and snows of other area's was more Sheltered an lots =
more flying. Warm and sunny even on sunday the Tenth when it was said to be=
cloudy!=C2=A0
On Thursday, March 7, 2019, 8:10:54 PM PST, Paul Russell=
<maliboo...> [SoWestLep] <SoWestLep-noreply...> wrote:=


=C2=A0 Today (March 7) in Santa Barbara we observed what may be the =
vanguard of a mass migration of Painted Ladies, all heading west. Numbers w=
ere several per minute, which is still light, but we hadn=E2=80=99t seen ev=
en a singleton for some time. Have others to the east of us seen this, and =
how abundant are they?
Paul Russell
<maliboo...>




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<div>Thanks Jim Great Information its so hard to sort out what all =
is in the group but the area i was in they were lots of Painted ladies stop=
ping to sip nectar Massive blooms and lots of new looking Painted ladies si=
pping on Probably every flower that was there fiddle necks, mustard , man r=
oot or wild cucumber invasive daisies the hills and flats are covered in bl=
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<p><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">Robert,
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<div>There might be some literature on this subject. I have personally seen=
Red Admiral's and Common buckeyes flying with the cardui movement in the V=
irgin Mountains of Arizona.</div>

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<div>My question is, does anybody know if anybody is looking at the reverse=
migration of cardui in the fall in North America? I suspect there could be=
a less massive return of cardui to some points south (Mexico?) like they d=
o in Europe where they head south from Scandinavia to northern Africa.</div=
>

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To: SoWestLep &lt;<SoWestLep...>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2019 7:00 pm<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Paul, Thousands or Probably hundreds of thousands today going through =
Orange County today. I Could count on shrubs by fives and Tens that there w=
ere more than fifty getting a Drink at a time. Clouds nonstop for several h=
ours starting around nine with peak at about 2pm. Do you or anybody out the=
re know how far they go when they migrate. Also it seems as the West Coast =
Ladies, Red Admirals, American Ladies Were absent today at local hilltops W=
onder Why. Do they Get Caught up in all this and go north also? I have read=
that at times one in fifty or a Hundred is said to be a Tortoise Shell? Th=
anks Paul, Bob</div>

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t times there were 30 Plus at one time passing us making us almost Dizzy tr=
ying to walk, lots of larva on Lupin of Panted ladies, also Huge White Line=
d Sphinx larva. The Largest I have ever yet seen Mowing the flowers down, t=
his super bloom may be over in lower elevations by this coming weekend. the=
Washes and Hill sides are Blooming Mountain Palm Springs in Borrego Desert=
Seemed like it avoided the frost and snows of other area's was more Shelte=
red an lots more flying. Warm and sunny even on sunday the Tenth when it wa=
s said to be cloudy!&nbsp;</div>

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