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Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2019 16:55:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: ROBERT GORMAN <gorboy...> [SoWestLep] <SoWestLep-noreply...>
Subject: Re: [SoWestLep] Painted Lady Migration

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Thanks Paul, Yes Jim I agree they Probably winter in Baja Also and much fa=
rther south? Also be good to do hermes research in Mx.=C2=A0
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ay, March 13, 2019, 9:04:35 AM PDT, Paul Cherubini <monarch...> [SoWes=
tLep] <SoWestLep-noreply...> wrote:

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Jim Bro=
ck wrote:
does anybody know if anybody is looking at the reverse migration =
of cardui in

the fall in North America? I suspect there could be a less m=
assive return of cardui

to some points south (Mexico?) like they do in Eur=
ope where they head south

from Scandinavia to northern Africa.

This is w=
hat Art Shapiro told a Los Angeles Times reporter recently:
https://www.lat=
imes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-butterflies-desert-explosion-20190312=
-story.html?outputType=3Damp

After the butterflies reach adulthood in the =
California deserts, inlate winter or early spring, they disperse to the nor=
thwest, flyingwithout stopping at speeds of up to 25 mph. The insects can t=
ravel 350miles from Lone Pine in the Eastern Sierra to Davis in only threed=
ays.
=E2=80=9CThey fly like a bat out of hell,=E2=80=9D Shapiro said.
The i=
nsects are fueled by a packet of yellow abdominal fat, storedfrom their cat=
erpillar days, that enables them to fly hundreds ofmiles without stopping. =
(That fat is responsible for the yellowstreaks on your car windshield if yo=
u happen to run into one). Whenthe fat reserve runs out, they will stop and=
breed. The nextgeneration will continue the trek north.
In the fall, the m=
igration pattern reverses. But the southern journeyis more leisurely. Witho=
ut stored fat, the butterflies make more stopsto drink nectar, and breed, a=
long the way. They arrive in the desertin late fall and the cycle begins ag=
ain.
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e class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"ydp17=
982485yiv7034231081class"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" sty=
le=3D"font-size:14px;">Jim Brock wrote:</span></div><span class=3D"ydp17982=
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"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081clas=
s" style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;">does anybody know if anybody=
is looking at the reverse migration of cardui in</span></div></blockquote>=
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s=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081=
class" style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;"> the fall in North Ameri=
ca? I suspect there could be a less massive return of cardui</span></div></=
blockquote><blockquote class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" type=3D"cite=
"><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yi=
v7034231081class" style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;">to some point=
s south (Mexico?) like they do in Europe where they head south</span></div>=
</blockquote><blockquote class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" type=3D"ci=
te"><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class"><span class=3D"ydp17982485=
yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:14px;"> from Scand=
inavia to northern Africa.</span></div></blockquote><span class=3D"ydp17982=
485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;"><br clear=3D"none" class=
=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class"></span></div><div><span class=3D"ydp1798=
2485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">This is what Art Shapiro =
told a Los Angeles Times reporter recently:</span></div><div><span class=3D=
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an class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;"><a sha=
pe=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" href=3D"https://www.lat=
imes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-butterflies-desert-explosion-20190312=
-story.html?outputType=3Damp" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://ww=
w.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-butterflies-desert-explosion-201=
90312-story.html?outputType=3Damp</a></span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485=
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<br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class"></span></div><di=
v class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:=
normal;min-height:14px;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" styl=
e=3D"font-size:14px;"><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081c=
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rgin:0px;font-stretch:normal;min-height:18px;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yi=
v7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">After the butterflies reach adu=
lthood in the California deserts, in<span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081=
class"></span></span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231=
081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">late winter or early spring, they dispe=
rse to the northwest, flying</span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv703423=
1081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp1798=
2485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">without stopping at speed=
s of up to 25 mph. The insects can travel 350</span></div><div class=3D"ydp=
17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span=
class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">miles fr=
om Lone Pine in the Eastern Sierra to Davis in only three</span></div><div =
class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:no=
rmal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14p=
x;">days.</span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D=
"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;min-height:18px;"><span class=3D"ydp1798248=
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81class"></span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D=
"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081cl=
ass" style=3D"font-size:14px;">=E2=80=9CThey fly like a bat out of hell,=E2=
=80=9D Shapiro said.</span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081clas=
s" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;min-height:18px;"><span class=3D=
"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;"><span class=3D"yd=
p17982485yiv7034231081class"></span><br clear=3D"none" class=3D"ydp17982485=
yiv7034231081class"></span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081clas=
s" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7=
034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">The insects are fueled by a packe=
t of yellow abdominal fat, stored</span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7=
034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"yd=
p17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">from their caterpill=
ar days, that enables them to fly hundreds of</span></div><div class=3D"ydp=
17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span=
class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">miles wi=
thout stopping. (That fat is responsible for the yellow</span></div><div cl=
ass=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:norm=
al;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;=
">streaks on your car windshield if you happen to run into one). When</span=
></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;fon=
t-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"f=
ont-size:14px;">the fat reserve runs out, they will stop and breed. The nex=
t</span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:=
0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" sty=
le=3D"font-size:14px;">generation will continue the trek north.</span></div=
><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stre=
tch:normal;min-height:18px;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" =
style=3D"font-size:14px;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class"></s=
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tch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-si=
ze:14px;">In the fall, the migration pattern reverses. But the southern jou=
rney</span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"marg=
in:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" =
style=3D"font-size:14px;">is more leisurely. Without stored fat, the butter=
flies make more stops</span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485yiv7034231081cla=
ss" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D"ydp17982485yiv=
7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">to drink nectar, and breed, alon=
g the way. They arrive in the desert</span></div><div class=3D"ydp17982485y=
iv7034231081class" style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;"><span class=3D=
"ydp17982485yiv7034231081class" style=3D"font-size:14px;">in late fall and =
the cycle begins again.</span></div></div>

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