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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:58:39 -0400
From: Christine Helie <thegrowingtree.christine...>
Subject: Re: [MassLep] need help with Id for this critter

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Hello Madison,
What a great photo! Thanks Josh on the ID...great information!
Christine

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:56 PM Josh <opihi...> wrote:

> Hi Madison - the critter in your photo is a fishfly. I think, given the
> late date, it is probably safe to call it a Summer Fishfly (Chauliodes
> pectinicornis). It and the earlier-flying species overlap in June and ear=
ly
> July, but I think only the later one would still be going now. They belon=
g
> to the same family as the Dobsonflies, and have a similar life cycle:
> aquatic larvae which are voracious predators, bizarre pupal stage that ca=
n
> crawl around and acts basically like a wingless adult that likes damp
> areas, short-lived adults that don=E2=80=99t eat but just live off of the=
larva=E2=80=99s
> stored fat while they mate, lay eggs, and die. Fishflies are much more
> common than Dobsonflies but much less well-known. They occur regularly
> around lights at night, but I=E2=80=99m not sure I=E2=80=99ve ever seen o=
ne during the day;
> the camouflage shown in your photo might explain why!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Josh
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Rose, Ph.D.
> Amherst, MA
>
> Webmaster, Hampshire Bird Club
> https://hampshirebirdclub.org/
>
> Northeast Chapter, Dragonfly Society of the Americas
> https://bryanpfeiffer.com/nedsa/
>
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>
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 5:33 PM, 'Madison, Stafford' via MassLep <
> <masslep...> wrote:
>
> Every day seems to bring a new adventure when it comes to my beloved
> Serviceberry I planted 2 years ago. Yesterday was no exception, as I
> nearly missed this incredibly well-camouflaged species, but despite a
> lengthy google search I couldn=E2=80=99t ID it. Hoping someone on this l=
istserv
> can assist =E2=80=93 thanks!
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Madison,</div><div>What a great photo! Thanks J=
osh on the ID...great information!</div><div>Christine</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 23,=
2019 at 5:56 PM Josh &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<opihi...>">opihi@min=
dspring.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>Hi Madison - the =
critter in your photo is a fishfly. I think, given the late date, it is pro=
bably safe to call it a Summer Fishfly (Chauliodes pectinicornis). It and t=
he earlier-flying species overlap in June and early July, but I think only =
the later one would still be going now. They belong to the same family as t=
he Dobsonflies, and have a similar life cycle: aquatic larvae which are vor=
acious predators, bizarre pupal stage that can crawl around and acts basica=
lly like a wingless adult that likes damp areas, short-lived adults that do=
n=E2=80=99t eat but just live off of the larva=E2=80=99s stored fat while t=
hey mate, lay eggs, and die. Fishflies are much more common than Dobsonflie=
s but much less well-known. They occur regularly around lights at night, bu=
t I=E2=80=99m not sure I=E2=80=99ve ever seen one during the day; the camou=
flage shown in your photo might explain why!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheer=
s,</div><div><br></div><div>Josh</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><di=
v>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-=
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"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:=
normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-align:s=
tart;text-indent:0px">Joshua S. Rose, Ph.D.<br>Amherst, MA</div><div style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:=
normal;word-spacing:0px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px"><br></div><div st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-transform:none;white-spa=
ce:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px">Webmaster, Ham=
pshire Bird Club</div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;=
text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-align:start;te=
xt-indent:0px"><a href=3D"https://hampshirebirdclub.org/" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://hampshirebirdclub.org/</a></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);let=
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text-align:start;text-indent:0px"><br></div><div style=3D"text-align:start;=
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/div><div style=3D"text-align:start;text-indent:0px"><a href=3D"https://bry=
anpfeiffer.com/nedsa/" target=3D"_blank">https://bryanpfeiffer.com/nedsa/</=
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//bugguide.net/user/view/2399" target=3D"_blank">http://bugguide.net/user/v=
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ndent:0px"><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/opihi" target=3D"_blank">htt=
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<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 23, 2019, at 5:33 PM, &#39;M=
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s.com" target=3D"_blank"><masslep...></a>&gt; wrote:</div><br c=
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none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.00=
01pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Every day seems to brin=
g a new adventure when it comes to my beloved Serviceberry I planted 2 year=
s ago.=C2=A0 Yesterday was no exception,=C2=A0 as I nearly missed this incr=
edibly well-camouflaged species, but despite a lengthy google search I coul=
dn=E2=80=99t ID it.=C2=A0 Hoping someone on this listserv can assist =E2=80=
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