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Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:03:29 +0000
From: 'Madison, Stafford' via MassLep <masslep...>
Subject: RE: [MassLep] need help with Id for this critter

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Yes, I=E2=80=99ve been remiss in thanking Josh and a couple others here for=
the ID! A particularly long week here at EPA=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.

The fishfly was on my serviceberry for two days then gone. Can=E2=80=99t w=
ait to discover what else shows up as the season progresses =E2=98=BA

Stafford

From: <masslep...> <masslep...> On Behalf Of Chri=
stine Helie
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 5:59 PM
To: <opihi...>
Cc: MassLep <masslep...>
Subject: Re: [MassLep] need help with Id for this critter

Hello Madison,
What a great photo! Thanks Josh on the ID...great information!
Christine

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:56 PM Josh <opihi...><mailto:opihi@min=
dspring.com>> wrote:
Hi Madison - the critter in your photo is a fishfly. I think, given the lat=
e date, it is probably safe to call it a Summer Fishfly (Chauliodes pectini=
cornis). It and the earlier-flying species overlap in June and early July, =
but I think only the later one would still be going now. They belong to the=
same family as the Dobsonflies, and have a similar life cycle: aquatic lar=
vae which are voracious predators, bizarre pupal stage that can crawl aroun=
d and acts basically like a wingless adult that likes damp areas, short-liv=
ed adults that don=E2=80=99t eat but just live off of the larva=E2=80=99s s=
tored fat while they mate, lay eggs, and die. Fishflies are much more commo=
n than Dobsonflies but much less well-known. They occur regularly around li=
ghts at night, but I=E2=80=99m not sure I=E2=80=99ve ever seen one during t=
he day; the camouflage shown in your photo might explain why!

Cheers,

Josh



Joshua S. Rose, Ph.D.
Amherst, MA

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On Jul 23, 2019, at 5:33 PM, 'Madison, Stafford' via MassLep <masslep@googl=
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Every day seems to bring a new adventure when it comes to my beloved Servic=
eberry I planted 2 years ago. Yesterday was no exception, as I nearly mis=
sed this incredibly well-camouflaged species, but despite a lengthy google =
search I couldn=E2=80=99t ID it. Hoping someone on this listserv can assis=
t =E2=80=93 thanks!





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes, I=E2=80=99ve been remiss in thanking Josh and a=
couple others here for the ID!&nbsp; A particularly long week here at EPA=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The fishfly was on my serviceberry for two days then=
gone.&nbsp; Can=E2=80=99t wait to discover what else shows up as the seaso=
n progresses
<span style=3D"font-family:Wingdings">J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Stafford<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <masslep...> &lt;masslep@go=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Christine Helie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 23, 2019 5:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <opihi...><br>
<b>Cc:</b> MassLep &lt;<masslep...>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MassLep] need help with Id for this critter<o:p></o:p>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello Madison,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What a great photo! Thanks Josh on the ID...great in=
formation!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Christine<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 5:56 PM Josh &lt;<a href=3D"=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi Madison - the critter in your photo is a fishfly.=
I think, given the late date, it is probably safe to call it a Summer Fish=
fly (Chauliodes pectinicornis). It and the earlier-flying species overlap i=
n June and early July, but I think
only the later one would still be going now. They belong to the same famil=
y as the Dobsonflies, and have a similar life cycle: aquatic larvae which a=
re voracious predators, bizarre pupal stage that can crawl around and acts =
basically like a wingless adult
that likes damp areas, short-lived adults that don=E2=80=99t eat but just =
live off of the larva=E2=80=99s stored fat while they mate, lay eggs, and d=
ie. Fishflies are much more common than Dobsonflies but much less well-know=
n. They occur regularly around lights at night,
but I=E2=80=99m not sure I=E2=80=99ve ever seen one during the day; the ca=
mouflage shown in your photo might explain why!<o:p></o:p></p>
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es, but despite a lengthy google search I couldn=E2=80=99t
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