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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 08:05:54 -0700
From: Robert Pacelli <rpacelli...> [western_monarchs] <western_monarchs...>
Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=5Bwestern=5Fmonarchs=5D_What=E2=80=99s_Happening_to_the_=28We?= =?UTF-8?Q?stern=29_Monarch_Butterfly_Population=3F_=28New_York_Times=2C_March_?= =?UTF-8?Q?20=2F20=29?=

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On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Paul Cherubini <monarch...>
[western_monarchs] <western_monarchs...> wrote:

>
>
> I think the questions the Washington State University and Tufts Universit=
y
> researchers have been asking have already been answered. Between the
> 1950-2000's about 200+ late winter and early spring tag recoveries were
> obtained of monarchs that were tagged along the California coast during t=
he
> fall and winter. Here is a partial listing:
> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2337/lK5ma6.jpg
> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9289/KXE3mg..jpg
> <https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9289/KXE3mg.jpg>
>
> These tag recapture records show the butterflies disperse in all directio=
ns
> away from the coastal winter cluster sites and do not concentrate
> anywhere;
> e.g. do not concentrate in any particular coastal valleys, the coastal
> mountains, in the Central Valley or Sierra foothills between Feb 14 -
> April 22.
>
> Also, during the past approx. 10 years many dozens of monarch sightings
> were posted to iNaturalist between Feb 14-April 22 as shown here:
> https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/8283/Pv52sz.jpg These
> reaffirm that the overwintered butterflies do not concentrate anywhere in
> California or any other western State when they disperse from the cluster
> groves in the late winter.
>
> So we see there is no mystery about =E2=80=9Cwhere do they go between the=
time
> they leave the coast and arrive at breeding sites in the coastal mountain=
s,
> coastal valleys, the Central Valley and Sierra foothills=E2=80=9D, becaus=
e we
> already
> know from these tagging and observational data the butterflies are
> scattered
> over that entire landscape, including the coast, itself during the period
> Feb 14-April 22.
>
> Paul Cherubini
> El Dorado, Calif.
>
>
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ial listing:</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-=
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e-height:normal"><span><a href=3D"https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/92=
89/KXE3mg.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/928=
9/KXE3mg..jpg</a></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;=
line-height:normal;min-height:14px"><span></span><br></div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span>These tag recapture =
records show the butterflies disperse in all directions</span></div><div st=
yle=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span>away from t=
he coastal winter cluster sites and do not concentrate anywhere;=C2=A0</spa=
n></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><s=
pan>e.g. do not concentrate in any particular coastal valleys, the coastal=
=C2=A0</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height=
:normal"><span>mountains, in the Central Valley or Sierra foothills between=
Feb 14 - April 22.</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:norma=
l;line-height:normal;min-height:14px"><br></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;fo=
nt-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span>Also, during the past approx. 1=
0 years many dozens of monarch sightings=C2=A0</span></div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span>were posted to iNatu=
ralist between Feb 14-April 22 as shown here:</span></div><div style=3D"mar=
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v><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><span>re=
affirm that the overwintered butterflies do not concentrate anywhere in=C2=
=A0</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:no=
rmal"><span>California or any other western State when they disperse from t=
he cluster=C2=A0</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;l=
ine-height:normal"><span>groves in the late winter.</span></div><div style=
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n></span><br></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height=
:normal"><span>So we see there is no mystery about =E2=80=9Cwhere do they g=
o between the time</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal=
;line-height:normal"><span>they leave the coast and arrive at breeding site=
s in the coastal mountains,</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stret=
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Sierra foothills=E2=80=9D,=C2=A0</span>because we already=C2=A0</div><div =
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tagging and observational data the butterflies are scattered=C2=A0</div><d=
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tire landscape, including the coast, itself during the period</div><div sty=
le=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal">Feb 14-April 22.</=
div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"><br></=
div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal">Paul C=
herubini</div><div style=3D"margin:0px;font-stretch:normal;line-height:norm=
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