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| List: Carolina-Leps Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2026 23:08:44 -0400 From: Salman Abdulali (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re=3A_Iryna=E2=80=99s_Azure_=28vetted_by_Harry_Pavulaan?= =?utf-8?Q?=29_for_a_Greenville_County=2C_SC_record=2E?= |
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--Apple-Mail=_8FF61100-6F85-4AC4-96AB-1D9CE88286F5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 How about https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140 Currently identified as Spring Azure because of the specialized dorsal fore= wing scales, but the ventral surface doesn=E2=80=99t look right for ladon. Salman > On Apr 26, 2026, at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM, Harry LeGrand <hlegrandjr...>= > wrote: >=20 > Wow! Getting very close to NC! I will check tomorrow on iNat for any ph= otos of potential Iryna's in this state. Not known previously north of cent= ral SC, but still not much known about the range other than "generally" fro= m central SC southward and west at least to Louisiana, and thus mainly a Co= astal Plain species -- as far as known, but Greenville County of course is = upper Piedmont. >=20 > Harry Pavulaan notes that Iryna's -- in an article and photo in an upcomi= ng Chrysalis issue -- is nearly white below and there is practically NO mar= ginal chevron band or other dark markings near the HW margin. Eerily white= below with also a reduction in black dots. >=20 > Harry LeGrand > Raleigh >=20 > On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 10:12=E2=80=AFPM M Campbell <mrcampbell2013@gmail= .com <mailto:<mrcampbell2013...>> wrote: >> Good evening, >>=20 >> Here is a record from another person for Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure, vetted = by Harry Pavulaan, for a Greenville County, SC record. >> https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/159487181 >>=20 >> Matthew Campbell >>=20 >>=20 >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 12:43=E2=80=AFAM Salman Abdulali <carolinaleps@d= uke.edu <mailto:<carolinaleps...>> wrote: >>> I have created a flag for iNaturalist curators to add the new species. >>>=20 >>> https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/819245 >>>=20 >>> Note: any iNaturalist user can create flags. Go to the taxon page and c= lick on the curation tab. >>>=20 >>> Salman Abdulali >>> Greenville, NC >>>=20 >>>> On Apr 25, 2026, at 12:03=E2=80=AFAM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps = Mailing List) <carolinaleps...> <mailto:<carolinaleps...>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Out of curiosity, I checked iNaturalist for possible SC records. INat = has not yet accepted the species, so I entered Celastrina and South Carolin= a. I saw at least 2 records of males in April 2026 with open wings to see = a medium blue, seemingly without the white veins of the Summer Azure. One w= as in Aiken County. I am not proficient in copy and paste on my iPhone, but= it would behoove folks to check these out on iNat. One or both show the = almost white underside ground color with few dots. I suspect these and a f= ew others from the central to SW part of SC in April to be this species. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> It is not known From NC and I have never seen top side male photos in = April in the state outside the mountains with these solid blue colors, and = so in April in the southern part of NC all fresh ones should now be second = brood Summer, as Holly ought to be worn or finished.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Harry LeGrand =3D the other Harry! >>>>=20 >>>> PS =E2=80=94If verified or at least possibly Iryna=E2=80=99s, reviewer= s/vetters should add their comments, even if the records seem to be only do= cumented to Celastrina species for now. I am not sure how iNat staff go ba= ck into the database once iNat DOES accept any new species, so that the spe= cies level records get changed to the full species name. Thoughts on that?= ? >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>=20 >>>>> On Apr 24, 2026, at 7:30=E2=80=AFPM, <carolinaleps...> <mailto:ca= <rolinaleps...> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>> Aiken County Near Aiken SP 4/23/26=20 >>>>> 10:40-3:35 10:40-11:40 Sunny 77-87 degrees >>>>>=20 >>>>> Alison Smith, Dave and I searched for Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Eastern Tiger Swallowtail 4 >>>>> Spicebush Swallowtail 3 >>>>> Palamedes Swallowtail 11 >>>>> Sleepy Orange 3 >>>>> Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure 6 (vetted by Harry Pavulaan) >>>>> Variegated Fritillary 6 >>>>> American Lady 1 >>>>> American Snout 1 >>>>> Common Buckeye 28 >>>>> Red-spotted Purple 3 >>>>> Appalachian Brown 1 >>>>> Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing 1 >>>>> Duskywing species 1 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Marty Kastner >>>>> Blythewood, SC >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>=20 --Apple-Mail=_8FF61100-6F85-4AC4-96AB-1D9CE88286F5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html aria-label=3D"message body"><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" c= ontent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">How a= bout<div><a href=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140" orig= inalSrc=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140">https://www.i= naturalist.org/observations/77309140</a></div><div><br></div><div>Currently= identified as Spring Azure because of the specialized dorsal forewing scal= es, but the ventral surface doesn=E2=80=99t look right for ladon.</div><div= ><br></div><div>Salman<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><bl= ockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Apr 26, 2026, at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM, Harry LeG= rand <<hlegrandjr...>> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchang= e-newline"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Wow! Getting very close to NC!&= nbsp; I will check tomorrow on iNat for any photos of potential Iryna's in = this state. Not known previously north of central SC, but still not much kn= own about the range other than "generally" from central SC southward and we= st at least to Louisiana, and thus mainly a Coastal Plain species -- as far= as known, but Greenville County of course is upper Piedmont.</div><div><br= ></div><div>Harry Pavulaan notes that Iryna's -- in an article and pho= to in an upcoming Chrysalis issue -- is nearly white below and there is pra= ctically NO marginal chevron band or other dark markings near the HW margin= . Eerily white below with also a reduction in black dots.</div><div><= br></div><div>Harry LeGrand</div><div>Raleigh</div></div><br><div class=3D"= gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On= Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 10:12=E2=80=AFPM M Campbell <<a href=3D"mailto:mrc= <ampbell2013...>"><mrcampbell2013...></a>> wrote:<br></div><bl= ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef= t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Good e= vening,</div><div><br></div><div>Here is a record from another person for I= ryna=E2=80=99s Azure, vetted by Harry Pavulaan, for a Greenville Coun= ty, SC record.</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observation= s/159487181" originalSrc=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/159487= 181" target=3D"_blank">https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/159487181</= a></div><div><br></div><div>Matthew Campbell</div><div><br></div><br><div c= lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 25, = 2026 at 12:43=E2=80=AFAM Salman Abdulali <<a href=3D"mailto:carolinaleps= @duke.edu" target=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>> wrote:<br></div>= <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-= left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I have created a fla= g for iNaturalist curators to add the new species.<div><br></div><div><a hr= ef=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/819245" originalSrc=3D"https://www.= inaturalist.org/flags/819245" target=3D"_blank">https://www.inaturalist.org= /flags/819245</a></div><div><br></div><div>Note: any iNaturalist user can c= reate flags. Go to the taxon page and click on the curation tab.</div><div>= <br></div><div>Salman Abdulali</div><div>Greenville, NC<br id=3D"m_15568110= 248107398m_4430980040941012994lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><bloc= kquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Apr 25, 2026, at 12:03=E2=80=AFAM, Harry LeGra= nd (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <<a href=3D"mailto:carolinaleps@duke.= edu" target=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>> wrote:</div><br><div><= div dir=3D"auto">Out of curiosity, I checked iNaturalist for possible SC re= cords. INat has not yet accepted the species, so I entered Celastrina and S= outh Carolina. I saw at least 2 records of males in April 2026 with o= pen wings to see a medium blue, seemingly without the white veins of the Su= mmer Azure. One was in Aiken County. I am not proficient in copy and paste = on my iPhone, but it would behoove folks to check these out on iNat. = One or both show the almost white underside ground color with few dots.&nb= sp; I suspect these and a few others from the central to SW part of SC in A= pril to be this species. <div><br></div><div>It is not known From NC = and I have never seen top side male photos in April in the state outside th= e mountains with these solid blue colors, and so in April in the southern p= art of NC all fresh ones should now be second brood Summer, as Holly ought = to be worn or finished. </div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeGrand =3D th= e other Harry!</div><div><br></div><div>PS =E2=80=94If verified or at least= possibly Iryna=E2=80=99s, reviewers/vetters should add their comments, eve= n if the records seem to be only documented to Celastrina species for now.&= nbsp; I am not sure how iNat staff go back into the database once iNat DOES= accept any new species, so that the species level records get changed to t= he full species name. Thoughts on that??</div><div><br id=3D"m_155681= 10248107398m_4430980040941012994lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir= =3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"= cite">On Apr 24, 2026, at 7:30=E2=80=AFPM, <a href=3D"mailto:carolinaleps@d= uke.edu" target=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a> wrote:<br><br></blockq= uote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div style= =3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr"= ><div><div>Aiken County Near Aiken SP 4/23/26 </div><div>10:40-3:35&nb= sp; 10:40-11:40 Sunny 77-87 degrees</div><div><br></div><= div>Alison Smith, Dave and I searched for Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure.</div><div>= <br></div><div>Eastern Tiger Swallowtail 4</div><div>Spicebush = Swallowtail 3</div><div>Palamedes Swallowtail 11</d= iv><div>Sleepy Orange 3</div><div><b>Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure = ; 6</b> (vetted by Harry Pavulaan)</div><div>Variegated Fritillary&nb= sp; 6</div><div>American Lady 1</div><div>American Snout&= nbsp; 1</div><div>Common Buckeye 28</div><div>Red-spotted= Purple 3</div><div>Appalachian Brown 1</div><div>H= orace=E2=80=99s Duskywing 1</div><div>Duskywing species &= nbsp;1</div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Marty Kastner</div><div dir=3D"= ltr">Blythewood, SC</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br></div></di= v></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><= /blockquote></div></div> </blockquote></div> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_8FF61100-6F85-4AC4-96AB-1D9CE88286F5-- |
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