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| List: Carolina-Leps Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 18:04:25 -0400 From: Salman Abdulali (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Fwd=3A_Iryna=E2=80=99s_Azure_=28vetted_by_Harry_Pavulaa?= =?utf-8?Q?n=29_for_a_Greenville_County=2C_SC_record=2E?= |
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--Apple-Mail=_5FB8E3B7-0D5A-4CAF-A82B-8A6FC9B31402 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: Salman Abdulali <salman.abdulali...> > Subject: Re: Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure (vetted by Harry Pavulaan) for a Green= ville County, SC record. > Date: April 28, 2026 at 5:59:18=E2=80=AFPM EDT > To: Harry Pavulaan <harrypav...> >=20 > Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure has now been added to iNaturalist. >=20 > https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/1680883-Celastrina-iryna >=20 > Salman >=20 >> On Apr 27, 2026, at 9:05=E2=80=AFPM, Harry Pavulaan <harrypav...>= m> wrote: >>=20 >> I've been keeping my own mini-atlas. Attached. >>=20 >> Harry P. >>=20 >> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >> From: M Campbell <mrcampbell2013...> >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2026 10:54 PM >> To: Harry LeGrand <hlegrandjr...> >> Cc: Harry Pavulaan <harrypav...>; Salman Abdulali <salman.abdul= <ali...>; JOHN DEMKO <jldemko...>; Dennis Forsythe <denni= <s.forsythe...>; <kastners...> <kastners...>; Carolinaleps <c= <arolinaleps...> >> Subject: Re: Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure (vetted by Harry Pavulaan) for a Gree= nville County, SC record. >> =20 >> Good evening, >>=20 >> For purposes of record keeping, Harry Pavulaan's paper describing Iryna'= s Azure gave a geographic distribution of: >> Range. Verified and reported county localities include: FLORIDA: Clay, G= adsden, Liberty, >> Okaloosa, Wakulla Counties. GEORGIA: Burke, Fannin, Fulton Counties. MIS= SISSIPPI: Adams >> County.=20 >> SOUTH CAROLINA: Aiken, Barnwell, Dorchester, Jasper, Orangeburg Counties= . >>=20 >> The observation in Greenville County, SC on inaturalist adds one more co= unty. >>=20 >> Matthew >>=20 >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 5:22=E2=80=AFPM Harry LeGrand <hlegrandjr@gmail.= com <mailto:<hlegrandjr...>> wrote: >> Harry P and others, >>=20 >> I was a bit confused by the "April 27" date you mentioned, when the phot= o that Salman linked: >>=20 >> https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140 >>=20 >> was taken on April 30, in 2021. >>=20 >> But, I do see that you HAVE confirmed it as an Iryna's Azure. Great new= s for us Tar Heels! Here are the comments you posted there: >>=20 >> "Bingo, Iryna's Azure! That elongated wing scale is a certainty, in comb= ination with a nearly pure white underside. Great find for North Carolina!" >>=20 >> So, as I am the primary author of the Butterflies of North Carolina webs= ite, I will write a species account for Iryna's Azure tonight or tomorrow. = I will certainly add Ken's record to the database, with Mecklenburg to sho= w in green. We WILL want and need one to several photos on the species pag= e, but that doesn't have to be tomorrow. Hopefully, we can get Ken's permis= sion to have the two photos (one ventral and the detailed dorsal) on the we= bsite. AND -- we certainly can use some photos taken in SC. Thus, if you do= have photos of this newly described species, please send them to Tom Howar= d (<tom.howard...> <mailto:<tom.howard...>) for posting to o= ur site (as SC does not have a similar website for viewing photos). I will= add in the text the known SC counties, from what Harry Pavulaan has stated= above and in his published paper. Once I finish the text, you can click o= n the PDF and see the text and the map with a black dot for Mecklenburg, bu= t I am not sure how we (Tom and I) can get the handful of SC counties to sh= ow on the PDF map just yet.=20 >>=20 >> Tom -- would it be possible for the webpage PDF to show black dots for t= he SC counties soon, once I complete the account and have a listing of the= SC counties in the text? That would be nice for us to have a visual of the= known range in the Carolinas immediately, and not have to wait until the e= nd of the year. >>=20 >> Harry L (the other Harry) >>=20 >> PS -- This ups the NC species total to 178. Of course, we would love to= have first records for previously existing species nearby, particularly Be= ll's Roadside-Skipper, or Bronze Copper, etc. Or a Florida or Midwestern st= ray. >>=20 >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 4:29=E2=80=AFPM Harry Pavulaan <harrypav@hotmail= .com <mailto:<harrypav...>> wrote: >> Bingo!! Iryna's Azure. The nearly pure white underside coupled with th= at elongated dorsal wing scale is a lock. Great documentation! >>=20 >> In general, any Azure with those elongated scales on the dorsal side of = the male forewing and nearly pure white undersides are Celastrina iryna. A= pril 27 is perfect for the flight window, and the flight window of C. ladon= (Spring Azure) is basically over. I know Celastrina neglecta summer brood= emerges in another week or two in that region. =20 >>=20 >> Harry P. >> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >> From: Salman Abdulali <salman.abdulali...> <mailto:salman.abdulal= <i...>> >> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2026 3:08 AM >> To: Harry LeGrand <hlegrandjr...> <mailto:<hlegrandjr...>> >> Cc: M Campbell <mrcampbell2013...> <mailto:<mrcampbell2013...>= m>>; JOHN DEMKO <jldemko...> <mailto:<jldemko...>>; Den= nis Forsythe <dennis.forsythe...> <mailto:<dennis.forsythe...>>= ; <kastners...> <mailto:<kastners...> <kastners...> <mailto:kast= <ners...>>; Harry Pavulaan <harrypav...> <mailto:harrypav@hotma= il.com>>; Carolinaleps <carolinaleps...> <mailto:<carolinaleps...>= >> >> Subject: Re: Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure (vetted by Harry Pavulaan) for a Gree= nville County, SC record. >> =20 >> How about >> https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140 >>=20 >> Currently identified as Spring Azure because of the specialized dorsal f= orewing scales, but the ventral surface doesn=E2=80=99t look right for lado= n. >>=20 >> Salman >>=20 >>> On Apr 26, 2026, at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM, Harry LeGrand <hlegrandjr...>= om <mailto:<hlegrandjr...>> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Wow! Getting very close to NC! I will check tomorrow on iNat for any = photos of potential Iryna's in this state. Not known previously north of ce= ntral SC, but still not much known about the range other than "generally" f= rom central SC southward and west at least to Louisiana, and thus mainly a = Coastal Plain species -- as far as known, but Greenville County of course i= s upper Piedmont. >>>=20 >>> Harry Pavulaan notes that Iryna's -- in an article and photo in an upco= ming Chrysalis issue -- is nearly white below and there is practically NO m= arginal chevron band or other dark markings near the HW margin. Eerily whi= te below with also a reduction in black dots. >>>=20 >>> Harry LeGrand >>> Raleigh >>>=20 >>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 10:12=E2=80=AFPM M Campbell <mrcampbell2013@gma= il.com <mailto:<mrcampbell2013...>> wrote: >>> Good evening, >>>=20 >>> Here is a record from another person for Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure, vetted= by Harry Pavulaan, for a Greenville County, SC record. >>> https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/159487181 >>>=20 >>> Matthew Campbell >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 12:43=E2=80=AFAM Salman Abdulali <carolinaleps@= duke.edu <mailto:<carolinaleps...>> wrote: >>> I have created a flag for iNaturalist curators to add the new species. >>>=20 >>> https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/819245 >>>=20 >>> Note: any iNaturalist user can create flags. Go to the taxon page and c= lick on the curation tab. >>>=20 >>> Salman Abdulali >>> Greenville, NC >>>=20 >>>> On Apr 25, 2026, at 12:03=E2=80=AFAM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps = Mailing List) <carolinaleps...> <mailto:<carolinaleps...>> wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Out of curiosity, I checked iNaturalist for possible SC records. INat = has not yet accepted the species, so I entered Celastrina and South Carolin= a. I saw at least 2 records of males in April 2026 with open wings to see = a medium blue, seemingly without the white veins of the Summer Azure. One w= as in Aiken County. I am not proficient in copy and paste on my iPhone, but= it would behoove folks to check these out on iNat. One or both show the = almost white underside ground color with few dots. I suspect these and a f= ew others from the central to SW part of SC in April to be this species. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> It is not known From NC and I have never seen top side male photos in = April in the state outside the mountains with these solid blue colors, and = so in April in the southern part of NC all fresh ones should now be second = brood Summer, as Holly ought to be worn or finished.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Harry LeGrand =3D the other Harry! >>>>=20 >>>> PS =E2=80=94If verified or at least possibly Iryna=E2=80=99s, reviewer= s/vetters should add their comments, even if the records seem to be only do= cumented to Celastrina species for now. I am not sure how iNat staff go ba= ck into the database once iNat DOES accept any new species, so that the spe= cies level records get changed to the full species name. Thoughts on that?= ? >>>>=20 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>=20 >>>>> On Apr 24, 2026, at 7:30=E2=80=AFPM, <carolinaleps...> <mailto:ca= <rolinaleps...> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>> Aiken County Near Aiken SP 4/23/26=20 >>>>> 10:40-3:35 10:40-11:40 Sunny 77-87 degrees >>>>>=20 >>>>> Alison Smith, Dave and I searched for Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Eastern Tiger Swallowtail 4 >>>>> Spicebush Swallowtail 3 >>>>> Palamedes Swallowtail 11 >>>>> Sleepy Orange 3 >>>>> Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure 6 (vetted by Harry Pavulaan) >>>>> Variegated Fritillary 6 >>>>> American Lady 1 >>>>> American Snout 1 >>>>> Common Buckeye 28 >>>>> Red-spotted Purple 3 >>>>> Appalachian Brown 1 >>>>> Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing 1 >>>>> Duskywing species 1 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Marty Kastner >>>>> Blythewood, SC >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> <iryna map.bmp> >=20 --Apple-Mail=_5FB8E3B7-0D5A-4CAF-A82B-8A6FC9B31402 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html aria-label=3D"message body"><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" c= ontent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><br i= d=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div= >Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div= style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-le= ft: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, = Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span= style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans= -serif;">Salman Abdulali <<salman.abdulali...>><br></span></div= ><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; marg= in-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica N= eue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></sp= an><span style=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helveti= ca, sans-serif;"><b>Re: Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure (vetted by Harry Pavulaan) fo= r a Greenville County, SC record.</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-= top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span s= tyle=3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-s= erif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-fa= mily: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">April 28= , 2026 at 5:59:18=E2=80=AFPM EDT<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: = 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style= =3D"font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif= ; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family: = -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Harry Pavulaan= <<harrypav...>><br></span></div><br><div><meta http-equiv=3D"= content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div style=3D"overflow= -wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;= ">Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure has now been added to iNaturalist.<div><br></div><d= iv><a href=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/1680883-Celastrina-iryna" or= iginalSrc=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/1680883-Celastrina-iryna">htt= ps://www.inaturalist.org/taxa/1680883-Celastrina-iryna</a></div><div><br></= div><div>Salman<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquot= e type=3D"cite"><div>On Apr 27, 2026, at 9:05=E2=80=AFPM, Harry Pavulaan &l= t;<harrypav...>> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newli= ne"><div><meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"fon= t-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacin= g: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:= none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stro= ke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto;= text-decoration-style: solid; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;= font-size: 12pt;">I've been keeping my own mini-atlas. Attached.</di= v><div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-c= aps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-ali= gn: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; wid= ows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-= line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid; = font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><d= iv class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:= normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows:= 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line= : none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid; font= -family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Harry P.</div><d= iv id=3D"Signature" class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0= , 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-var= iant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; te= xt-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: norma= l; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decor= ation-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: s= olid;"><div class=3D"elementToProof" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helveti= ca, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><p class=3D"elementToProof" sty= le=3D"margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">Sent from<span class=3D"Apple-c= onverted-space"> </span><a href=3D"http://aka.ms/weboutlook" originalS= rc=3D"http://aka.ms/weboutlook" style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0p= x;">Outlook</a><br></p></div><div id=3D"appendonsend" style=3D"caret-color:= rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;= font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orpha= ns: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-spa= ce: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t= ext-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration= -style: solid;"></div><hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight= : 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: = 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0p= x; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decorat= ion-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid; display: inline-block; w= idth: 881.015625px;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:= Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;= font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; t= ext-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word= -spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float= : none; display: inline !important;"></span><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir= =3D"ltr" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-s= ize: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400;= letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; t= ext-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -we= bkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-th= ickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-s= erif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted= -space"> </span>M Campbell <<mrcampbell2013...>><br><b>Sent= :</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, April 27, 2= 026 10:54 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </spa= n>Harry LeGrand <<hlegrandjr...>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class=3D"Ap= ple-converted-space"> </span>Harry Pavulaan <<harrypav...>&g= t;; Salman Abdulali <<salman.abdulali...>>; JOHN DEMKO <jlde= <mko...>>; Dennis Forsythe <<dennis.forsythe...>>; k= <astners...> <<kastners...>>; Carolinaleps <carolinaleps@duk= e.edu><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </s= pan>Re: Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure (vetted by Harry Pavulaan) for a Greenville C= ounty, SC record.</font><div> </div></div><div style=3D"caret-color: r= gb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; f= ont-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans= : 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space= : normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; tex= t-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-s= tyle: solid;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Good evening,<div><br></div= ><div>For purposes of record keeping, Harry Pavulaan's paper describin= g Iryna's Azure gave a geographic distribution of:</div><div><div>Rang= e. Verified and reported county localities include: FLORIDA: Clay, Gadsden,= Liberty,</div><div>Okaloosa, Wakulla Counties. GEORGIA: Burke, Fannin, Ful= ton Counties. MISSISSIPPI: Adams<br>County. </div><div>SOUTH CAROLINA:= Aiken, Barnwell, Dorchester, Jasper, Orangeburg Counties.</div></div><div>= <br></div><div>The observation in Greenville County, SC on inaturalist adds= one more county.</div><div><br></div><div>Matthew</div></div><br><div clas= s=3D"x_gmail_quote x_gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gma= il_attr">On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 5:22=E2=80=AFPM Harry LeGrand <<a href= =3D"mailto:<hlegrandjr...>"><hlegrandjr...></a>> wrote:<br></d= iv><blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; = border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"= ltr"><div>Harry P and others,</div><div><br></div><div>I was a bit confused= by the "April 27" date you mentioned, when the photo that Salman linked:</= div><div><br></div><div><div><a href=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observa= tions/77309140" originalSrc=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/773= 09140" target=3D"_blank">https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140<= /a></div><br></div><div>was taken on April 30, in 2021.</div><div><br></div= ><div>But, I do see that you HAVE confirmed it as an Iryna's Azure.&nb= sp; Great news for us Tar Heels! Here are the comments you posted there:</d= iv><div><br></div><div><span>"Bingo, Iryna's Azure! That elongated wing sca= le is a certainty, in combination with a nearly pure white underside. Great= find for North Carolina!"</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><sp= an>So, as I am the primary author of the Butterflies of North Carolina webs= ite,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>I will write a sp= ecies account for Iryna's Azure tonight or tomorrow. </b><span class= =3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>I will certainly add Ken's record t= o the database, with Mecklenburg to show in green. We WILL want and n= eed one to several photos on the species page, but that doesn't have t= o be tomorrow. Hopefully, we can get Ken's permission to have the two photo= s (one ventral and the detailed dorsal) on the website. AND -- we certainly= can use some photos taken in SC. Thus, if you do have photos of this newly= described species, please send them to Tom Howard (<a href=3D"mailto:tom.h= <oward...>" target=3D"_blank"><tom.howard...></a>) for postin= g to our site (as SC does not have a similar website for viewing photos).&n= bsp; I will add in the text the known SC counties, from what Harry Pavulaan= has stated above and in his published paper. Once I finish the text,= you can click on the PDF and see the text and the map with a black dot for= Mecklenburg, but I am not sure how we (Tom and I) can get the handful of S= C counties to show on the PDF map just yet. </span></div><div><span><u= ><br></u></span></div><div><span><u>Tom -- would it be possible for the web= page PDF to show black dots for the SC counties soon, once I = ; complete the account and have a listing of the SC counties in t= he text? That would be nice for us to have a visual of the known range in t= he Carolinas immediately, and not have to wait until the end of the year.</= u></span></div><div><span><u><br></u></span></div><div><span></span></div><= div><span>Harry L (the other Harry)</span></div><div><span><br></span></div= ><div><span>PS -- This ups the NC species total to 178. Of course, we= would love to have first records for previously existing species nearby, p= articularly Bell's Roadside-Skipper, or Bronze Copper, etc. Or a Florida or= Midwestern stray.</span></div></div><br><div class=3D"x_gmail_quote"><div = dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Mon, Apr 27, 2026 at 4:29=E2=80=AFPM = Harry Pavulaan <<a href=3D"mailto:<harrypav...>" target=3D"_blank= "><harrypav...></a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"x_gmail= _quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,= 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-fa= mily: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Bingo!! Iryna= 's Azure. The nearly pure white underside coupled with that elongated= dorsal wing scale is a lock. Great documentation!</div><div style=3D= "font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><= div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"= >In general, any Azure with those elongated scales on the dorsal side of th= e male forewing and nearly pure white undersides are Celastrina iryna. = ; April 27 is perfect for the flight window, and the flight window of C. la= don (Spring Azure) is basically over. I know Celastrina neglecta summ= er brood emerges in another week or two in that region. </div><d= iv style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">= <br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-s= ize: 12pt;">Harry P.</div><div id=3D"x_m_-4509296094958770635m_-40362121549= 99869122Signature"><p style=3D"margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">Sent f= rom<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"http://aka= .ms/weboutlook" originalSrc=3D"http://aka.ms/weboutlook" target=3D"_blank" = style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Outlook</a><br></p></div><di= v id=3D"x_m_-4509296094958770635m_-4036212154999869122appendonsend"></div><= hr style=3D"display: inline-block; width: 856.9375px;"><div id=3D"x_m_-4509= 296094958770635m_-4036212154999869122divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font face= =3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b><span class= =3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Salman Abdulali <<a href=3D"mail= to:<salman.abdulali...>" target=3D"_blank"><salman.abdulali...>= </a>><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>= Monday, April 27, 2026 3:08 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-= space"> </span>Harry LeGrand <<a href=3D"mailto:<hlegrandjr...>= m" target=3D"_blank"><hlegrandjr...></a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class= =3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>M Campbell <<a href=3D"mailto:mr= <campbell2013...>" target=3D"_blank"><mrcampbell2013...></a>>;= JOHN DEMKO <<a href=3D"mailto:<jldemko...>" target=3D"_blank">= <jldemko...></a>>; Dennis Forsythe <<a href=3D"mailto:dennis= <.forsythe...>" target=3D"_blank"><dennis.forsythe...></a>>;<s= pan class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:kastners= @aol.com" target=3D"_blank"><kastners...></a><span class=3D"Apple-conver= ted-space"> </span><<a href=3D"mailto:<kastners...>" target=3D"_= blank"><kastners...></a>>; Harry Pavulaan <<a href=3D"mailto:harry= <pav...>" target=3D"_blank"><harrypav...></a>>; Carolinale= ps <<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>" target=3D"_blank">carolinal= <eps...></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space= "> </span>Re: Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure (vetted by Harry Pavulaan) for a G= reenville County, SC record.</font><div> </div></div><div>How about<di= v><a href=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140" originalSrc= =3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140" target=3D"_blank">ht= tps://www.inaturalist.org/observations/77309140</a></div><div><br></div><di= v>Currently identified as Spring Azure because of the specialized dorsal fo= rewing scales, but the ventral surface doesn=E2=80=99t look right for ladon= .</div><div><br></div><div>Salman<br id=3D"x_m_-4509296094958770635m_-40362= 12154999869122x_lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type=3D= "cite"><div>On Apr 26, 2026, at 10:31=E2=80=AFPM, Harry LeGrand <<a href= =3D"mailto:<hlegrandjr...>" target=3D"_blank"><hlegrandjr...></a>= > wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Wow! Getting very clo= se to NC! I will check tomorrow on iNat for any photos of potential I= ryna's in this state. Not known previously north of central SC, but still n= ot much known about the range other than "generally" from central SC southw= ard and west at least to Louisiana, and thus mainly a Coastal Plain species= -- as far as known, but Greenville County of course is upper Piedmont.</di= v><div><br></div><div>Harry Pavulaan notes that Iryna's -- in an artic= le and photo in an upcoming Chrysalis issue -- is nearly white below and th= ere is practically NO marginal chevron band or other dark markings near the= HW margin. Eerily white below with also a reduction in black dots.</= div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeGrand</div><div>Raleigh</div></div><br><div= ><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 10:12=E2=80=AFPM M Campbell <<= a href=3D"mailto:<mrcampbell2013...>" target=3D"_blank">mrcampbell2013= @gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px= 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div= dir=3D"ltr"><div>Good evening,</div><div><br></div><div>Here is a record f= rom another person for Iryna=E2=80=99s Azure, vetted by Harry Pavulaa= n, for a Greenville County, SC record.</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.ina= turalist.org/observations/159487181" originalSrc=3D"https://www.inaturalist= .org/observations/159487181" target=3D"_blank">https://www.inaturalist.org/= observations/159487181</a></div><div><br></div><div>Matthew Campbell</div><= div><br></div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 12:43=E2=80= =AFAM Salman Abdulali <<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>" target= =3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style= =3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); p= adding-left: 1ex;"><div>I have created a flag for iNaturalist curators to a= dd the new species.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.inaturalist.o= rg/flags/819245" originalSrc=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/819245" t= arget=3D"_blank">https://www.inaturalist.org/flags/819245</a></div><div><br= ></div><div>Note: any iNaturalist user can create flags. Go to the taxon pa= ge and click on the curation tab.</div><div><br></div><div>Salman Abdulali<= /div><div>Greenville, NC<br id=3D"x_m_-4509296094958770635m_-40362121549998= 69122x_m_15568110248107398m_4430980040941012994lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessag= e"><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Apr 25, 2026, at 12:03=E2=80= =AFAM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <<a href=3D"mailto:= <carolinaleps...>" target=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>> wrot= e:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"auto">Out of curiosity, I checked iNaturalist = for possible SC records. INat has not yet accepted the species, so I entere= d Celastrina and South Carolina. I saw at least 2 records of males in= April 2026 with open wings to see a medium blue, seemingly without the whi= te veins of the Summer Azure. One was in Aiken County. I am not proficient = in copy and paste on my iPhone, but it would behoove folks to check these o= ut on iNat. One or both show the almost white underside ground color= with few dots. I suspect these and a few others from the central to = SW part of SC in April to be this species. <div><br></div><div>It is = not known From NC and I have never seen top side male photos in April in th= e state outside the mountains with these solid blue colors, and so in April= in the southern part of NC all fresh ones should now be second brood Summe= r, as Holly ought to be worn or finished. </div><div><br></div><div>Ha= rry LeGrand =3D the other Harry!</div><div><br></div><div>PS =E2=80=94If ve= rified or at least possibly Iryna=E2=80=99s, reviewers/vetters should add t= heir comments, even if the records seem to be only documented to Celastrina= species for now. I am not sure how iNat staff go back into the datab= ase once iNat DOES accept any new species, so that the species level record= s get changed to the full species name. Thoughts on that??</div><div>= <br id=3D"x_m_-4509296094958770635m_-4036212154999869122x_m_155681102481073= 98m_4430980040941012994lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Se= nt from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Ap= r 24, 2026, at 7:30=E2=80=AFPM,<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> = </span><a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>" target=3D"_blank">carolinal= <eps...></a><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<b= r><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB= =BF<div style=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 16px= ;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Aiken County Near Aiken SP 4/23/26 </div= ><div>10:40-3:35 10:40-11:40 Sunny 77-87 degrees</d= iv><div><br></div><div>Alison Smith, Dave and I searched for Iryna=E2=80=99= s Azure.</div><div><br></div><div>Eastern Tiger Swallowtail 4</= div><div>Spicebush Swallowtail 3</div><div>Palamedes Swallowtai= l 11</div><div>Sleepy Orange 3</div><div><b>Iryna= =E2=80=99s Azure 6</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nb= sp;</span>(vetted by Harry Pavulaan)</div><div>Variegated Fritillary = 6</div><div>American Lady 1</div><div>American Snout = ; 1</div><div>Common Buckeye 28</div><div>Red-spotted Pur= ple 3</div><div>Appalachian Brown 1</div><div>Horac= e=E2=80=99s Duskywing 1</div><div>Duskywing species  = ;1</div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Marty Kastner</div><div dir=3D"ltr"= >Blythewood, SC</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br></div></div></= div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blo= ckquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><= /div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div><span id= =3D"cid:DB311B53-B939-4E0E-BA62-01731323BB08"><iryna map.bmp></span><= /div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body= ></html>= --Apple-Mail=_5FB8E3B7-0D5A-4CAF-A82B-8A6FC9B31402-- |
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