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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2026 18:19:37 -0400
From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: Yancey County (Mt. Mitchell) 7/30/26

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Glad to see that Green Comma is still there, and fresh at that. Wish folks
could find them at other places in the mountains!

Your duskywing is indeed a Horace's, a female. Females shouldn't cause
confusion with Wild Indigo, as they are strongly mottled on the basal 60%
of the forewing; very blotchy. Male Horace's are more solidly brown, but
still show some slight black blotching. On the male, the wrist is still a
similar brown and the wing tips are brown -- little contrast. Wild Indigo
has a grayish (male) or buffy (female) wrist and is very dark brown on the
basal 60%, with some gray scales near the wingtip. Thus, on a WIDW, the
forewing is darker on the inner half and lighter on the outer half. At
least up there, you really don't need to separate out Zarucco DW -- a
tricky species to separate from both Horace's and WI downstate.

Harry LeGrand

On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 1:20=E2=80=AFPM Heather Rayburn <carolinaleps...>=
du>
wrote:

> Last Thursday was perfect weather for Mt. Mitchell. Started at 64-degrees=
,
> mostly clear, little wind. On the drive up from Asheville, I saw lots of
> Pipevines and some Tigers. There were also many dead butterflies in the
> road. I checked four of them (Pipevines). The roadsides once I turned int=
o
> the MOMI road were bursting with Cutleaf Coneflower and Thistle. This vid=
eo
> doesn=E2=80=99t really capture the beauty of it, but it=E2=80=99s my best=
try:
>
> *MOMI Pipevine/Thistle parties
> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/55440721051/in/datetaken/>*.
>
>
> *Blooms:* Scarlet Bee Balm, Mtn. Dwarf Dandelion, St. John=E2=80=99s Wart=
, Joe
> Pye, Saxifrage, Three-tooted Cinquefoil, Pink Turtlehead, Cutleaf
> Coneflower, Thistle, etc.
>
> Pipevine Swallowtails, 150+
> Eastern Tiger Swallowtail, 12+ (I had about four dark form.)
> Orange Sulphur, 1
> Summer Azure, 2
> Eastern Tailed-Blue, 2
> Great Spangled Fritillary, 1
> Fritillary sp., 3 (including one that was either a Varigated or Meadow)
> GREEN COMMA <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/388004187>, 1
> (Super fresh!)
> Comma sp., 3
> Red Admiral, 1
> Pearl Crescent, 1
> Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/3882=
27808>,
> 3 (I=E2=80=99m having trouble distinguishing this species from Wild Indig=
o)
> Sachem, 1
>
> Cheers,
> Heather Rayburn
> Asheville
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Glad to see that Green Comma is still there, and fres=
h at that. Wish folks could find them at other places in the mountains!</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Your duskywing is indeed a Horace&#39;s, a female. Fe=
males=C2=A0shouldn&#39;t cause confusion with Wild Indigo, as they are stro=
ngly mottled on the basal 60% of the forewing; very blotchy. Male Horace&#3=
9;s are more solidly brown, but still show some slight black blotching. On =
the male, the wrist is still a similar brown=C2=A0and the wing tips are bro=
wn -- little contrast. Wild Indigo has a grayish (male) or buffy (female) w=
rist and is very dark brown on the basal 60%, with some gray scales near th=
e wingtip.=C2=A0 Thus, on a WIDW, the forewing is darker on the inner half =
and lighter on the outer=C2=A0half.=C2=A0 At least up there, you really don=
&#39;t need to separate out Zarucco DW -- a tricky species=C2=A0to separate=
from both Horace&#39;s and WI downstate.</div><div><br></div><div>Harry Le=
Grand</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 4, 2026 at 1:20=E2=80=AFPM Hea=
ther Rayburn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>">carolinaleps@duke=
.edu</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1=
ex"><div>Last Thursday was perfect weather for Mt. Mitchell. Started at 64-=
degrees, mostly clear, little wind. On the drive up from Asheville, I saw l=
ots of Pipevines and some Tigers. There were also many dead butterflies in =
the road. I checked four of them (Pipevines). The roadsides once I turned i=
nto the MOMI road were bursting with Cutleaf Coneflower and Thistle. This v=
ideo doesn=E2=80=99t really capture the beauty of it, but it=E2=80=99s my b=
est try:<b>=C2=A0</b><div><br></div><div><b><a href=3D"https://www.flickr.c=
om/photos/190206870@N03/55440721051/in/datetaken/" originalSrc=3D"https://w=
ww.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/55440721051/in/datetaken/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">MOMI Pipevine/Thistle parties</a></b>.<div><br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv><b>Blooms:</b> Scarlet Bee Balm, Mtn. Dwarf Dandelion, St. John=E2=80=99=
s Wart, Joe Pye, Saxifrage, Three-tooted Cinquefoil, Pink Turtlehead, Cutle=
af Coneflower, Thistle, etc.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Pipevine Swallo=
wtails, 150+</div><div>Eastern Tiger Swallowtail, 12+ (I had about four dar=
k form.)</div><div>Orange Sulphur, 1</div><div>Summer Azure, 2</div><div>Ea=
stern Tailed-Blue, 2</div><div>Great Spangled Fritillary, 1</div><div>Friti=
llary sp., 3 (including one that was either a Varigated or Meadow)</div><di=
v><a href=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/388004187" originalSr=
c=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/388004187" target=3D"_blank">=
GREEN COMMA</a>, 1 (Super fresh!)</div><div>Comma sp., 3</div><div>Red Admi=
ral, 1</div><div>Pearl Crescent, 1</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.inatura=
list.org/observations/388227808" originalSrc=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org=
/observations/388227808" target=3D"_blank">Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing</a>, =
3 (I=E2=80=99m having trouble distinguishing this species from Wild Indigo)=
</div><div>Sachem, 1</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Heather Ray=
burn</div><div>Asheville</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>

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