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| List: Carolina-Leps Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2026 09:44:29 -0400 From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...> Subject: Re: Broken-dashes at the Lump Wilkes Co |
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--0000000000009f214c06598ed6cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff Pippen has already posted his opinion to iNat that these are both Southerns. I tend to agree, and I feel that both of these are the same species, but which one? Northern typically doesn't show any rusty or orangish color, and the post-median band is not a strong "3", often simply a wide arc or even-sized spots. These show a warm tone to them and a bit of a 3-pattern. Northern BD does occur along the Blue Ridge Parkway, such as at Doughton Park and the Cone Manor areas, at higher elevations. So, that species cannot be ruled out here by geography. Southern tends to be rare in the southern Appalachians such as in the Great Smoky Mountains area. The weird thing is that the Northern ranges all the way to central Florida, including in coastal areas. Though much more common and widespread in states to our north, why is it so scarce in the Carolinas? Southern BD is much the more numerous and widespread one in the Carolinas. Harry LeGrand Raleigh On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 10:10=E2=80=AFPM <badgerboy...> wrote: > On Tuesday I got to the Lump Overlook on the BRP, Wilkes County NC, just > as the mowing crew arrived so took a quick look around at the clover befo= re > it got chopped down, and found 2 different presumed broken-dashes. One > seemed redder and one yellower on the shoulder ground, so I tentatively p= ut > them down in iNat as a Southern > <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/392453818> and a Northern > <https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/392453839>, but would > appreciate input from more knowledgable folks. Other butterfly species > there included 2 Monarchs, 10+ Silver-spotted Skippers, a Peck's skipper,= a > couple Sachems, and 3 or 4 Eastern Tiger Swallowtails. > > Guy (McGrane, Boone NC) > > --0000000000009f214c06598ed6cc Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jeff Pippen has already posted his opinion to iNat th= at these are both Southerns. I tend to agree, and I feel that both of these= are the same species, but which one?=C2=A0 Northern typically doesn't = show any rusty or orangish color, and the post-median band is not a strong = "3", often simply a wide arc or even-sized spots. These show a wa= rm tone to them and a bit of a 3-pattern.</div><div><br></div><div>Northern= BD does occur along the Blue Ridge Parkway, such as at Doughton Park and t= he Cone Manor areas, at higher elevations. So, that species cannot be ruled= out here by geography. Southern tends to be rare in the southern Appalachi= ans such as in the Great Smoky Mountains area.</div><div><br></div><div>The= =C2=A0weird thing is that the Northern ranges all the way to central Florid= a, including=C2=A0in coastal areas. Though much more common and widespread= =C2=A0in states to our north, why is it so scarce in the Carolinas?=C2=A0 S= outhern BD is much the more numerous and widespread=C2=A0one in the Carolin= as.</div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeGrand</div><div>Raleigh</div></div><br= ><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D= "gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 20, 2026 at 10:10=E2=80=AFPM <<a href=3D"mailto= :<badgerboy...>"><badgerboy...></a>> wrote:<br></div><blockq= uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p= x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u> =20 =20 =20 <div> <p>On Tuesday I got to the Lump Overlook on the BRP, Wilkes County NC, just as the mowing crew arrived so took a quick look around at the clover before it got chopped down, and found 2 different presumed broken-dashes. One seemed redder and one yellower on the shoulder ground, so I tentatively put them down in iNat as a <a href= =3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/392453818" originalSrc=3D"http= s://www.inaturalist.org/observations/392453818" target=3D"_blank">Southern<= /a> and a <a href=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/392453839" = originalSrc=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/392453839" target= =3D"_blank">Northern</a>, but would appreciate input from more knowledgable folks. Other butterfly species there included 2 Monarchs, 10+ Silver-spotted Skippers, a Peck's skipper, a couple Sachems, and 3 or 4 Eastern Tiger Swallowtails.</p> <p>Guy (McGrane, Boone NC)</p> <div><br> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> --0000000000009f214c06598ed6cc-- |
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