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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2017 23:37:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: 'Matthew Arey' via MassLep <masslep...>
Subject: Re: [MassLep] Re: Rhode Island extravaganza (part II) Westerly and S. Kingstown (9/24/17)
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Thank you for the correction. I had forgotten that M. religiosa was actuall=
y European in origin.=20

Matt


From: Josh <opihi...>
To: <NEleps...>; MassLep <masslep...>=20
Cc: Matthew Arey <mothman617...>
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2017 7:33 PM
Subject: [MassLep] Re: Rhode Island extravaganza (part II) Westerly and S.=
Kingstown (9/24/17)
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Matthew and all - the northernmost native American mantis species is the Ca=
rolina Mantis (Stagmomantis carolina), which has only recently been detecte=
d as far north as New York state, and to date has not yet been found in New=
England, as far as I have heard. So even Connecticut would be a range exte=
nsion, and Rhode Island or MA even more of one. As long as leppers are alre=
ady spending lots of time down there at this time of year searching for sou=
thern stray butterflies, some documentation of this other southern stray in=
sect would be highly desirable.=C2=A0
Note that there are at least two exotic mantis species present in New Engla=
nd. The huge species is the Chinese Mantis (Tenodera sinensis). Other than =
size (which is only really useful in adult females), the most readily spott=
ed field mark for identification is the striped pattern from its forehead d=
own toward the mandibles. Here is a photo showing that:=C2=A0http://bugguid=
e.net/node/view/582992
The other exotic is the European Mantis (Mantis religiosa). Not only is it =
smaller than the Chinese, and lacks the forehead stripes, but it has striki=
ng black-and-white eyespots between its forelimbs. The spots are not always=
readily visible, as the mantids tend to keep their forelimbs together, but=
with some patience they can usually be noted, as in this photo:http://bugg=
uide.net/node/view/1135510/bgimage
More on the Carolina Mantis, including a section on identification, at this=
page:=C2=A0http://bugguide.net/node/view/4821
So photos showing the whole critter in profile, and a close-up of the face,=
plus perhaps a peek between those front legs, should be sufficient to sort=
out the three mantid species.
Cheers,
Josh

Joshua S. Rose, Ph.D.
Amherst, MA
http://bugguide.net/user/view/2399https://www.facebook.com/opihi



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Rhode Island extravaganza (part II) Westerly and S. Kingstown (9/24/17)



Lot's of Mantids in there too. Both the native American Mantis and the Asia=
tic ones that were huge, especially the females.
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
ont-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font=
-size:13px"><div>Thank you for the correction. I had forgotten that M. reli=
giosa was actually European in origin. <br></div><div><br></div><div id=3D"=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11003">Matt<br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1506294448407_11002"><span></span></div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"=
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_10875"><br><br></div><div class=3D"y=
ahoo_quoted" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11012" style=3D"display:=
block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Luc=
ida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_150629444=
8407_11011"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helv=
etica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1506294448407_11010"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506=
294448407_11009"> <font id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11013" size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr size=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;"=
>From:</span></b> Josh &lt;<opihi...>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"f=
ont-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <NEleps...>; MassLep &lt;massl=
<ep...>&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span=
></b> Matthew Arey &lt;<mothman617...>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 24, 2017 7:33 PM<br> <b><=
span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [MassLep] Re: Rhode I=
sland extravaganza (part II) Westerly and S. Kingstown (9/24/17)<br> </font=
> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15062944484=
07_11014"><br><div id=3D"yiv2229446694"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_150629=
4448407_11016"><div class=3D"yiv2229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294=
448407_11015">Matthew and all - the northernmost native American mantis spe=
cies is the Carolina Mantis (Stagmomantis carolina), which has only recentl=
y been detected as far north as New York state, and to date has not yet bee=
n found in New England, as far as I have heard. So even Connecticut would b=
e a range extension, and Rhode Island or MA even more of one. As long as le=
ppers are already spending lots of time down there at this time of year sea=
rching for southern stray butterflies, some documentation of this other sou=
thern stray insect would be highly desirable.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv2=
229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11017"><br class=3D"yiv222=
9446694" clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1506294448407_11018">Note that there are at least two exotic mantis=
species present in New England. The huge species is the Chinese Mantis (Te=
nodera sinensis). Other than size (which is only really useful in adult fem=
ales), the most readily spotted field mark for identification is the stripe=
d pattern from its forehead down toward the mandibles. Here is a photo show=
ing that:&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2229446694" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://bugguide=
.net/node/view/582992">http://bugguide.net/node/view/582992</a></div><div c=
lass=3D"yiv2229446694"><br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v class=3D"yiv2229446694">The other exotic is the European Mantis (Mantis r=
eligiosa). Not only is it smaller than the Chinese, and lacks the forehead =
stripes, but it has striking black-and-white eyespots between its forelimbs=
. The spots are not always readily visible, as the mantids tend to keep the=
ir forelimbs together, but with some patience they can usually be noted, as=
in this photo:</div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2229446694" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://bugguide=
.net/node/view/1135510/bgimage">http://bugguide.net/node/view/1135510/bgima=
ge</a></div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694"><br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clear=
=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694">More on the Carolina Mantis, i=
ncluding a section on identification, at this page:&nbsp;</div><div class=
=3D"yiv2229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11020"><a rel=3D"n=
ofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2229446694" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"h=
ttp://bugguide.net/node/view/4821" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11=
019">http://bugguide.net/node/view/4821</a></div><div class=3D"yiv222944669=
4" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11021"><br class=3D"yiv2229446694"=
clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1506294448407_11022">So photos showing the whole critter in profile, and a =
close-up of the face, plus perhaps a peek between those front legs, should =
be sufficient to sort out the three mantid species.</div><div class=3D"yiv2=
229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11023"><br class=3D"yiv222=
9446694" clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1506294448407_11024">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1506294448407_11025"><br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_15062=
94448407_11026">Josh</div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694"><br class=3D"yiv2229=
446694" clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv2229446694" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
ym19_1_1506294448407_11027"><br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div class=3D"yiv2229446694">
<div class=3D"yiv2229446694" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;"><div style=3D"=
text-indent:0px;">Joshua S. Rose, Ph.D.<br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clear=3D=
"none">Amherst, MA<br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2229446694" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http=
://bugguide.net/user/view/2399">http://bugguide.net/user/view/2399</a></div=
><div style=3D"text-indent:0px;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=
=3D"yiv2229446694" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/opihi=
">https://www.facebook.com/opihi</a><br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clear=3D"no=
ne"><br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clear=3D"none"></div></div>

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9446694" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"yiv2229446694yqt4125941570" id=3D"yiv2=
229446694yqtfd90914"><div class=3D"yiv2229446694">On Sep 24, 2017, at 7:07 =
PM, <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv2229446694" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:<mothman617...>" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:mothman617@yah=
oo.com"><mothman617...></a> [NEleps] &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"=
rect" class=3D"yiv2229446694" ymailto=3D"mailto:NEleps-noreply@yahoogroups.=
com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:<NEleps-noreply...>">NElep=
<s-noreply...></a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"yiv2229446694App=
le-interchange-newline" clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv2229446694"><br cla=
ss=3D"yiv2229446694" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-sty=
le:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-tra=
nsform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;" clear=3D"none"><span clas=
s=3D"yiv2229446694" style=3D"font-size:12pt;">Rhode Island extravaganza (pa=
rt II) Westerly and S. Kingstown (9/24/17)</span></div></div></blockquote><=
div class=3D"yiv2229446694yqt4125941570" id=3D"yiv2229446694yqtfd31742"><di=
v><br class=3D"yiv2229446694" clear=3D"none"></div><br class=3D"yiv22294466=
94" clear=3D"none"><blockquote class=3D"yiv2229446694" type=3D"cite"><div c=
lass=3D"yiv2229446694" style=3D"clear:both;padding:15px 0px 3px;overflow:hi=
dden;font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:nor=
mal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:n=
ormal;word-spacing:0px;"><span class=3D"yiv2229446694" style=3D"font-size:1=
2pt;">Lot's of Mantids in there too. Both the native American Mantis and th=
e Asiatic ones that were huge, especially the females.</span></div></blockq=
uote></div></div></div><div><div></div>

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