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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 15:08:59 -0700
From: Stewart Wechsler <ecostewart...> [NorWestLeps] <NorWestLeps...>
Subject: Re: [NorWestLeps] Re: Opinions on a butterfly posted at iNaturalist (with link)

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Not that you all need another opinion, but:

While I don't have all of the diagnostic features of all of the possible
Coppers down, nor do I remember what all of the possible coppers are for
the area in question, I would say it is definitely no Celastrina / Azure,
and indeed looks like a Lycaena / Copper, and in spite of my weak knowledge
of what I need to see to call it mariposa, it looks like what I had
familiarized myself with as L. mariposa.

-Stewart

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 2:12 PM, 'Norbert Kondla' <nkondla...>
[NorWestLeps] <NorWestLeps...> wrote:

>
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> Will be interesting to see the paper. What I have seen in my study
> material is that current subspecies names do not adequately capture the
> geographic variation in western Canada. So some additional names would be
> useful.
>
>
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> Norbert Kondla
>
> Rimbey, Alberta
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/
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> https://www.facebook.com/Norbert.Kondla
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>
> *From:* <NorWestLeps...> [mailto:<NorWestLeps...>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 4, 2017 2:05 PM
> *To:* <NorWestLeps...>
> *Subject:* Re: [NorWestLeps] Re: Opinions on a butterfly posted at
> iNaturalist (with link)
>
>
>
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>
> I talked to Bob Pyle the other day. He said that he is about to publish a
> paper with others(?), on something like 8-10 subspecies of Mariposa
> Coppers, maybe a cline(?) from all over the PNW as well as parts of Briti=
sh
> Columbia and Alberta I think. It will interesting to see what he has to s=
ay
> about this species.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Not that you all need another opinion, but:<div><br></div>=
<div>While I don&#39;t have all of the diagnostic features of all of the po=
ssible Coppers down, nor do I remember what all of the possible coppers are=
for the area in question, I would say it is definitely no Celastrina / Azu=
re, and indeed looks like a Lycaena / Copper, and in spite of my weak knowl=
edge of what I need to see to call it mariposa, it looks like what I had fa=
miliarized myself with as L. mariposa.<div><br></div><div>-Stewart</div></d=
iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, =
Oct 4, 2017 at 2:12 PM, &#39;Norbert Kondla&#39; <a href=3D"mailto:nkondla@=
telus.net"><nkondla...></a> [NorWestLeps] <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:<NorWestLeps...>" target=3D"_blank">NorWestLeps@yaho=
ogroups.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
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<p></p><div class=3D"m_-3820960462595288398WordSection1"><p class=3D"=
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ng to see the paper. What I have seen in my study material is that current =
subspecies names do not adequately capture the geographic variation in west=
ern Canada. So some additional names would be useful.<u></u><u></u></span><=
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t-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Norbert Kondla<u></u><u></u></span></p><p clas=
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rta<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
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mailto:<NorWestLeps...>" target=3D"_blank">NorWestLeps@yahoogrou=
ps.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NorWestLeps] Re: Opinions on a butterfly=
posted at iNaturalist (with link)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><spa=
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