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Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2020 10:46:12 -0500
From: Rick Borchelt (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: carolinaleps Digest Sat, 07 Mar 2020

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Unlikely, in our experience with this (rather common here) swallowtail in
MD. Dark *appalachiensis* are exceedingly rare, and it looks (from what I
can tell from the dorsal views) like the VHW submarginal band is pretty
narrow. Should be 1/4 or more of the width of the HW. But ID here is
often confusing because we seem to be in the middle of a hybrid swarm zone
and many Eastern/Appalachian tigers show a mixture of features; we're
pretty conservative in calling *appalachiensis* unless there's a
preponderance of diagnostic characteristics. Not sure what your mixture is
in the Carolinas.

On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 6:01 AM <carolinaleps-request...> wrote:

> carolinaleps digest Sat, 07 Mar 2020
>
> Table of contents:
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> * 1 - Tiger Swallowtails and Allies (Subgenus Pterourus) from Pisgah
> National
> Forest, Burnsville, NC, US on May 09, 2019 at 03:04 PM by j__lang =C2=B7
> iNaturalist - Salman Abdulali <salman.abdulali...>
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> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 15:07:43 -0500
> From: Salman Abdulali <salman.abdulali...>
> Subject: Tiger Swallowtails and Allies (Subgenus Pterourus) from Pisgah
> National Forest, Burnsville, NC, US on May 09, 2019 at 03:04 PM by
> j__lang =C2=B7
> iNaturalist
>
> Is this a dark form female Appalachian Tiger?
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> >
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> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/2499=
3000__;!!OToaGQ!7JqyqOQkt8EkxuAIXebUykXwvnhFfAcARO6XOWXY9Jg-GD73pZSaiEJ6pJg=
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> End of carolinaleps Digest Sat, 07 Mar 2020
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Unlikely, in our experience with this (rather common here)=
swallowtail in MD.=C2=A0 Dark <i>appalachiensis</i> are exceedingly rare, =
and it looks (from what I can tell from the dorsal views) like the VHW subm=
arginal band is pretty narrow.=C2=A0 Should be 1/4 or more of the width of =
the HW.=C2=A0 But ID here is often confusing because we seem to be in the m=
iddle of a hybrid swarm zone and many Eastern/Appalachian tigers show a mix=
ture of features; we&#39;re pretty conservative in calling <i>appalachiensi=
s</i> unless there&#39;s a preponderance of diagnostic characteristics.=C2=
=A0 Not sure what your mixture is in the Carolinas.<br></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 =
at 6:01 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps-request...>">carolinalep=
<s-request...></a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex">carolinaleps digest Sat, 07 Mar 2020<br>
<br>
Table of contents:<br>
<br>
* 1 - Tiger Swallowtails and Allies (Subgenus Pterourus) from Pisgah Nation=
al<br>
=C2=A0 Forest, Burnsville, NC, US on May 09, 2019 at 03:04 PM by j__lang =
=C2=B7<br>
=C2=A0 iNaturalist - Salman Abdulali &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:salman.abdulali@=
icloud.com" target=3D"_blank"><salman.abdulali...></a>&gt;<br>
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a>&gt;<br>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 15:07:43 -0500<br>
From: Salman Abdulali &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<salman.abdulali...>" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><salman.abdulali...></a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Tiger Swallowtails and Allies (Subgenus Pterourus) from Pisgah<br>
=C2=A0National Forest, Burnsville, NC, US on May 09, 2019 at 03:04 PM by j_=
_lang =C2=B7<br>
=C2=A0iNaturalist<br>
<br>
Is this a dark form female Appalachian Tiger?<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.inaturalist.org/observat=
ions/24993000__;!!OToaGQ!7JqyqOQkt8EkxuAIXebUykXwvnhFfAcARO6XOWXY9Jg-GD73pZ=
SaiEJ6pJgEZEsN74Y$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense=
.com/v3/__https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/24993000__;!!OToaGQ!7Jqy=
qOQkt8EkxuAIXebUykXwvnhFfAcARO6XOWXY9Jg-GD73pZSaiEJ6pJgEZEsN74Y$</a><br>
&lt;<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.inaturalist.org/obse=
rvations/24993000__;!!OToaGQ!7JqyqOQkt8EkxuAIXebUykXwvnhFfAcARO6XOWXY9Jg-GD=
73pZSaiEJ6pJgEZEsN74Y$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldef=
ense.com/v3/__https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/24993000__;!!OToaGQ!=
7JqyqOQkt8EkxuAIXebUykXwvnhFfAcARO6XOWXY9Jg-GD73pZSaiEJ6pJgEZEsN74Y$</a><br>
&gt;<br>
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End of carolinaleps Digest Sat, 07 Mar 2020<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_signature">Rick Borchelt<br>College Park, MD<br>preferred personal ema=
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se.com/v3/__http://leplog.wordpress.com__;!!OToaGQ!5XD86khmk8sRYZHiefCpXR8A=
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