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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 13:36:40 +0000
From: Scholtens, Brian G <ScholtensB...>
Subject: Re: Rare NC butterflies being sold on eBay

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Derb,

Thank you for posting about this. As a collector and recent past-President=
of the Lepidopterists' Society, these kinds of sites are exactly what we a=
re trying to discourage. We don't allow advertising like this in our publi=
cations. I don't know all the legalities in NC, but if any of these specie=
s have legal protection, it would be worthwhile to report this to eBay as a=
legal violation. I note that this is someone who has collected extensivel=
y across the country, not just NC.

Brian Scholtens
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From: <carolinaleps-request...> <carolinaleps-request...> on beha=
lf of Derb Carter <derbc...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:22 AM
To: <carolinaleps...> <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Rare NC butterflies being sold on eBay

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There is a collector selling hundreds of specimens of rare butterflies on e=
Bay, some up to $100 each. One of his main collecting sites appears to be =
North Carolina. "Brand new" specimens for sale from NC include Dusky Azure=
, Hessel's Hairstreak, Edward's Hairstreak, King's Hairstreak, Helicta Saty=
r, Georgia Satyr, Little Metalmark, Two-spotted Skipper, Duke's Skipper, an=
d Green Comma. These species are rare and some imperiled and monitored by =
the state Natural Heritage Program. The site is at the link below.

I strongly suspect that the collector is a lurker on the Carolinaleps lists=
erve. Otherwise, it would be nearly impossible to locate these rare specie=
s in NC, and the sighting reports on the listserve provide a collecting roa=
dmap. Also, most of these rare species are very local and the known sites =
are in protected areas where collecting is prohibited or permits required. =
The Lepidopterists' Society statement on ethical collection of butterflies=
states collectors should consult with local experts before collecting rare=
or local species and obey all laws and restrictions. And collecting for s=
cience is one thing, but to sell on eBay is another.

This makes me leery about reporting locations on future sightings of rare o=
r imperiled species. As I strongly suspect the collector is reading this, =
as a North Carolinian concerned about our natural diversity, I ask you to t=
ake your business elsewhere.

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Derb Carter


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Thank you for posting about this.&nbsp; As a collector and recent past-Pres=
ident of the Lepidopterists' Society, these kinds of sites are exactly what=
we are trying to discourage.&nbsp; We don't allow advertising like this in=
our publications.&nbsp; I don't know all the legalities
in NC, but if any of these species have legal protection, it would be wort=
hwhile to report this to eBay as a legal violation.&nbsp; I note that this =
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Brian Scholtens<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 24, 2020 9:22 AM<br>
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There is a collector selling hundreds of specimens of rare butterflies on e=
Bay, some up to $100 each.&nbsp; One of his main collecting sites appears t=
o be North Carolina.&nbsp; &quot;Brand new&quot; specimens for sale from NC=
include Dusky Azure, Hessel's Hairstreak, Edward's
Hairstreak, King's Hairstreak, Helicta Satyr, Georgia Satyr, Little Metalm=
ark, Two-spotted Skipper, Duke's Skipper, and Green Comma.&nbsp; These spec=
ies are rare and some imperiled and monitored by the state Natural Heritage=
Program.&nbsp; The site is at the link below.<br>
<br>
I strongly suspect that the collector is a lurker on the Carolinaleps lists=
erve.&nbsp; Otherwise, it would be nearly impossible to locate these rare s=
pecies in NC, and the sighting reports on the listserve provide a collectin=
g roadmap.&nbsp; Also, most of these rare
species are very local and the known sites are in protected areas where co=
llecting is prohibited or permits required.&nbsp; The Lepidopterists' Socie=
ty statement on ethical collection of butterflies states collectors should =
consult with local experts before collecting
rare or local species and obey all laws and restrictions.&nbsp; And collec=
ting for science is one thing, but to sell on eBay is another.<br>
<br>
This makes me leery about reporting locations on future sightings of rare o=
r imperiled species.&nbsp; As I strongly suspect the collector is reading t=
his, as a North Carolinian concerned about our natural diversity, I ask you=
to take your business elsewhere.<br>
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