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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 09:40:07 -0400
From: Sam Davis <sam...>
Subject: Re: Rare NC butterflies being sold on eBay

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Hi all -

It may be worth going through and reporting items. You'll need an ebay
account. Collecting on National Forests, like the West Virginia White
specimen, is illegal without explicit permission from the park management.

I reported that one because it's my expertise, but I'm unsure on others.

Sam

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:22 AM Derb Carter <derbc...> wrote:

> There is a collector selling hundreds of specimens of rare butterflies on
> eBay, some up to $100 each. One of his main collecting sites appears to be
> North Carolina. "Brand new" specimens for sale from NC include Dusky
> Azure, Hessel's Hairstreak, Edward's Hairstreak, King's Hairstreak, Helicta
> Satyr, Georgia Satyr, Little Metalmark, Two-spotted Skipper, Duke's
> Skipper, and Green Comma. These species are rare and some imperiled and
> monitored by the state Natural Heritage Program. The site is at the link
> below.
>
> I strongly suspect that the collector is a lurker on the Carolinaleps
> listserve. Otherwise, it would be nearly impossible to locate these rare
> species in NC, and the sighting reports on the listserve provide a
> collecting roadmap. Also, most of these rare species are very local and
> the known sites are in protected areas where collecting is prohibited or
> permits required. The Lepidopterists' Society statement on ethical
> collection of butterflies states collectors should consult with local
> experts before collecting rare or local species and obey all laws and
> restrictions. And collecting for science is one thing, but to sell on eBay
> is another.
>
> This makes me leery about reporting locations on future sightings of rare
> or imperiled species. As I strongly suspect the collector is reading this,
> as a North Carolinian concerned about our natural diversity, I ask you to
> take your business elsewhere.
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=254505588802&_ssn=iau111&_pgn=15&_skc=700&rt=nc__;!!OToaGQ!-zJb9nRH9vuWvSMnGAl5Q2GgTwEyWOiLqxtT_EZukVVg2fZwcKY37Mxn2Q06rHgX3vY$
>
> Derb Carter
>
>

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Sam L. Davis, Ph.D.
Conservation Scientist
Dogwood Alliance
they/them/theirs
(828) 251-2525 ext. 19 (office)
(828) 380-2482 (cell)
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all -=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>It may be worth going th=
rough and reporting items. You&#39;ll need an ebay account. Collecting on N=
ational Forests, like the West Virginia White specimen, is illegal without =
explicit permission from the park management.</div><div><br></div><div>I re=
ported that one because it&#39;s my expertise, but I&#39;m unsure on others=
.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Sam</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:22 AM D=
erb Carter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<derbc...>"><derbc...></a>&gt;=
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There is=
a collector selling hundreds of specimens of rare butterflies on eBay, som=
e up to $100 each.=C2=A0 One of his main collecting sites appears to be Nor=
th Carolina.=C2=A0 &quot;Brand new&quot; specimens for sale from NC include=
Dusky Azure, Hessel&#39;s Hairstreak, Edward&#39;s Hairstreak, King&#39;s =
Hairstreak, Helicta Satyr, Georgia Satyr, Little Metalmark, Two-spotted Ski=
pper, Duke&#39;s Skipper, and Green Comma.=C2=A0 These species are rare and=
some imperiled and monitored by the state Natural Heritage Program.=C2=A0 =
The site is at the link below.<br>
<br>
I strongly suspect that the collector is a lurker on the Carolinaleps lists=
erve.=C2=A0 Otherwise, it would be nearly impossible to locate these rare s=
pecies in NC, and the sighting reports on the listserve provide a collectin=
g roadmap.=C2=A0 Also, most of these rare species are very local and the kn=
own sites are in protected areas where collecting is prohibited or permits =
required.=C2=A0 The Lepidopterists&#39; Society statement on ethical collec=
tion of butterflies states collectors should consult with local experts bef=
ore collecting rare or local species and obey all laws and restrictions.=C2=
=A0 And collecting for science is one thing, but to sell on eBay is another=
.<br>
<br>
This makes me leery about reporting locations on future sightings of rare o=
r imperiled species.=C2=A0 As I strongly suspect the collector is reading t=
his, as a North Carolinian concerned about our natural diversity, I ask you=
to take your business elsewhere.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=
=3D254505588802&amp;_ssn=3Diau111&amp;_pgn=3D15&amp;_skc=3D700&amp;rt=3Dnc_=
_;!!OToaGQ!-zJb9nRH9vuWvSMnGAl5Q2GgTwEyWOiLqxtT_EZukVVg2fZwcKY37Mxn2Q06rHgX=
3vY$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://urldefense.com/v3/__http=
s://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=3D254505588802&amp;_ssn=3Diau111&amp;_pgn=
=3D15&amp;_skc=3D700&amp;rt=3Dnc__;!!OToaGQ!-zJb9nRH9vuWvSMnGAl5Q2GgTwEyWOi=
LqxtT_EZukVVg2fZwcKY37Mxn2Q06rHgX3vY$</a> <br>
<br>
Derb Carter<br>
<br>
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r"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div=
style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><div>Sam L. Davis, Ph.D.</div><div>Conservation=
Scientist</div><div>Dogwood Alliance</div><div>they/them/theirs</div><div>=
(828) 251-2525 ext. 19 (office)</div><div>(828) 380-2482 (cell)</div><div>-=
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