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Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 20:32:41 -0400
From: Jeff Pippen (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: Rare NC butterflies being sold on eBay


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Lepsters,

Thanks for folks for bringing this serious matter to the attention of this =
group. For species that are quite rare, it is certainly prudent to keep lo=
cation data confidential. It=E2=80=99s sad that there are a few =E2=80=9Cb=
ad apples=E2=80=9D out there that can taint an entire group.

I have no problem whatsoever with ethical butterfly collecting. In fact, a=
s a member of the Executive Committee for the Lepidopterists=E2=80=99 Socie=
ty, I was involved with putting out this statement on collecting Lepidopter=
a:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lepsoc.org/content/statement-collec=
ting__;!!OToaGQ!8cQdHUU2mkidPyztOe12cB8O8JTEPUvFFy8ueqEhSPcyn4htosELJscCg9T=
W3S9YA1c$=20

Unethical collecting, however, such as where certain persons are illegally =
taking specimens on property without permission, or when individuals are ki=
lling rare and protected butterflies for profit, is never appropriate.=20=20

If anyone is aware of who may be illegally collecting rare lepidoptera and =
selling them for profit, I urge them to contact the appropriate authorities.

Let=E2=80=99s get outside and enjoy butterflies and moths responsibly!

Cheers,
Jeff
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Jeffrey S. Pippen
Durham, NC=20
https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeffpippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!8cQdHUU2m=
kidPyztOe12cB8O8JTEPUvFFy8ueqEhSPcyn4htosELJscCg9TWJA3F3LA$=20

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing Lis=
t) <carolinaleps...> wrote:
>=20
> My plea on this matter. If you know the name of this person, PLEASE give=
him name (or his associates also), so that Jeff Pippen can remove him from=
the listserve and so that authorities will know whom to target. And , so =
the some of us will know whom NOT to give butterfly locations/directions to.
>=20
> Jeff Glassberg did few favors in his book when he complained that one or =
two unscrupulous collectors took every Mitchell's Satyr from one or more bo=
gs in NJ -- and he seems to know who it was. But, he NEVER did mention a n=
ame in his books, nor any time in American Butterflies, his butterfly magaz=
ine. Why protect the guilty?
>=20
> As the author and editor of the Butterflies of North Carolina website, I =
may have to ask Tom Howard to strip off ALL of the Comments sections on ALL=
of the butterfly records on the website. Tom and I will talk about this.
>=20
> And, at the risk of putting myself in some harm, as Derb has brought up t=
his disturbing and semi-illegal matter, I will point out a disturbing incid=
ent that may get to some of this. When Jeff Pippen and I were at a site in=
Clay County years ago, after having seen the last Gorgone Checkerspot ever=
reported in NC, as we headed back to our cars we saw and spoke with Jeff S=
lotten, a noted butterfly and moth collector from northern Florida. He hel=
d a large net, and even at 10-11 in the morning, he told us he was there co=
llecting moths. We mentioned that we were looking for Gorgone Checkerspot =
and told them that we didn't see any, and that we were worried that they ha=
d been collected out. He responded quickly "You can't collect them out'" =
Yes, all 3 of us lied that morning. But, in the last 10 or more years, no=
one has ever seen one there. And, he has asked me, Jeff Pippen, and maybe=
some others for directions to some species in NC, especially Two-spotted S=
kipper. So, one collector who definitely knows a lot of the whereabouts of=
NC butterflies is Mr. Slotten.
>=20
> Jeff Pippen has talked with a lepster from far out of state who mentioned=
that Cofaqui Giant-Skipper still exists in NC, and I've heard the same thi=
ngs from another collector. I've heard that one or two collectors have dug=
up yucca plants at a now protected site in Alexander County, taken them ho=
me with a larval tube in them. and rear an adult later, which is then made =
into a specimen. Essentially none of us, in many tries, has ever seen an a=
dult in NC -- which means that there indeed is a collection ring out there =
outside the state that knows more about the species than we do here. I'm 9=
5% sure that Baltimore Checkerspots have been collected out from many sites=
in NC. We know that Two-spotted Skipper, Cobweb Skipper, Leonard's Skippe=
r, Rare Skipper, and some others are declining in NC, and these are collect=
ors targets -- in addition to ones that Derb mentioned in an earlier post.
>=20
> These incidents do not mean that these people are SELLING rare butterfly =
species. But it is obvious that these people at least KNOW who this or the=
se eBay sellers are.
>=20
> Even if collecting of butterflies in NC is not technically against the la=
w -- they are not state protected -- there are protections from taking them=
from various parks, refuges, etc., that require permits for taking of plan=
ts and animals. I am 99.9% sure that out-of-state butterfly collectors do =
not bother with permits. Most collectors take butterfly for their personal=
collections, and other collect for a museum. Few of them I feel sure sell=
butterflies, and selling them on eBay would certainly tarnish any reputati=
on as a scrupulous and honorable person.
>=20
> Jeff Pippen, the listserve owner/manager, will need to attempt to seek ou=
t names of subscribers whom he knows or suspects of being lurkers/collector=
s -- and remove them from the listserve. He might have some way to know wh=
o subscribes but has not posted. Such folks could be removed, for example.=
We'll see what Jeff Pippen has to say about all of this.=20=20=20
>=20
> But I think most of us, if not quite all of us, are disgusted by this -- =
and selling NC butterflies HAS TO STOP! These are rare species in NC.
>=20
> Harry LeGrand
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:53 AM Sam Davis <sam...> <mailt=
o:<sam...>> wrote:
> Edit / correction on my earlier email:=20
>=20
> Collecting as a scientist is illegal in a NF without a permit, but collec=
ting for recreational use is not. Collecting in a National Park is illegal =
regardless without a permit.
>=20
> But either way, reporting the rare species may get them taken down :)
>=20
> Sam
>=20
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:40 AM Sam Davis <sam...> <mailt=
o:<sam...>> wrote:
> Hi all -=20
>=20
> It may be worth going through and reporting items. You'll need an ebay ac=
count. Collecting on National Forests, like the West Virginia White specime=
n, is illegal without explicit permission from the park management.
>=20
> I reported that one because it's my expertise, but I'm unsure on others.=
=20
>=20
> Sam
>=20
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:22 AM Derb Carter <derbc...> <mailto:der=
<bc...>> wrote:
> There is a collector selling hundreds of specimens of rare butterflies on=
eBay, some up to $100 each. One of his main collecting sites appears to b=
e North Carolina. "Brand new" specimens for sale from NC include Dusky Azu=
re, Hessel's Hairstreak, Edward's Hairstreak, King's Hairstreak, Helicta Sa=
tyr, Georgia Satyr, Little Metalmark, Two-spotted Skipper, Duke's Skipper, =
and Green Comma. These species are rare and some imperiled and monitored b=
y the state Natural Heritage Program. The site is at the link below.
>=20
> I strongly suspect that the collector is a lurker on the Carolinaleps lis=
tserve. Otherwise, it would be nearly impossible to locate these rare spec=
ies in NC, and the sighting reports on the listserve provide a collecting r=
oadmap. Also, most of these rare species are very local and the known site=
s are in protected areas where collecting is prohibited or permits required=
. The Lepidopterists' Society statement on ethical collection of butterfli=
es states collectors should consult with local experts before collecting ra=
re or local species and obey all laws and restrictions. And collecting for=
science is one thing, but to sell on eBay is another.
>=20
> This makes me leery about reporting locations on future sightings of rare=
or imperiled species. As I strongly suspect the collector is reading this=
, as a North Carolinian concerned about our natural diversity, I ask you to=
take your business elsewhere.
>=20
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=3D254505=
588802&_ssn=3Diau111&_pgn=3D15&_skc=3D700&rt=3Dnc__;!!OToaGQ!-zJb9nRH9vuWvS=
MnGAl5Q2GgTwEyWOiLqxtT_EZukVVg2fZwcKY37Mxn2Q06rHgX3vY$ <https://urldefense.=
com/v3/__https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=3D254505588802&_ssn=3Diau111&=
_pgn=3D15&_skc=3D700&rt=3Dnc__;!!OToaGQ!-zJb9nRH9vuWvSMnGAl5Q2GgTwEyWOiLqxt=
T_EZukVVg2fZwcKY37Mxn2Q06rHgX3vY$>=20
>=20
> Derb Carter
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Sam L. Davis, Ph.D.
> Conservation Scientist
> Dogwood Alliance
> they/them/theirs
> (828) 251-2525 ext. 19 (office)
> (828) 380-2482 (cell)
> ----
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Sam L. Davis, Ph.D.
> Conservation Scientist
> Dogwood Alliance
> they/them/theirs
> (828) 251-2525 ext. 19 (office)
> (828) 380-2482 (cell)
> ----
>=20


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=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: s=
pace; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Lepsters,<div clas=
s=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks for folks for bringing t=
his serious matter to the attention of this group. &nbsp;For species that a=
re quite rare, it is certainly prudent to keep location data confidential. =
&nbsp;It=E2=80=99s sad that there are a few =E2=80=9Cbad apples=E2=80=9D ou=
t there that can taint an entire group.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""=
></div><div class=3D"">I have no problem whatsoever with ethical butterfly =
collecting. &nbsp;In fact, as a member of the Executive Committee for the L=
epidopterists=E2=80=99 Society, I was involved with putting out this statem=
ent on collecting Lepidoptera:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><d=
iv class=3D""><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.lepsoc.org=
/content/statement-collecting__;!!OToaGQ!8cQdHUU2mkidPyztOe12cB8O8JTEPUvFFy=
8ueqEhSPcyn4htosELJscCg9TW3S9YA1c$" class=3D"">https://www.lepsoc.org/conte=
nt/statement-collecting</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Unethical collecting, however, such as where certain persons are=
illegally taking specimens on property without permission, or when individ=
uals are killing rare and protected butterflies for profit, is never approp=
riate. &nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If =
anyone is aware of who may be illegally collecting rare lepidoptera and sel=
ling them for profit, I urge them to contact the appropriate authorities.</=
div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Let=E2=80=99s get =
outside and enjoy butterflies and moths responsibly!</div><div class=3D""><=
br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"">Jeff<br cl=
ass=3D""><div class=3D"">
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ext-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: norm=
al; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-w=
rap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-=
space;" class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: norma=
l; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none=
; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke=
-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-=
break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">--</d=
iv><div class=3D"">Jeffrey S. Pippen</div><div class=3D"">Durham, NC&nbsp;<=
/div><div class=3D""><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeff=
pippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!8cQdHUU2mkidPyztOe12cB8O8JTEPUvFFy8ueqEhSPcyn4htosEL=
JscCg9TWJA3F3LA$" class=3D"">http://www.jeffpippen.com/</a></div></div></di=
v></div>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On=
Jun 24, 2020, at 11:41 AM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>" class=3D""><carolinaleps...>=
u</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D=
""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"">My plea on this matter.&nbsp=
; If you know the name of this person,<b class=3D""> PLEASE give him name (=
or his associates also), so that Jeff Pippen can remove him from the listse=
rve and so that authorities will know whom</b> <b class=3D"">to target.&nbs=
p; And , so the some of us will know whom NOT to give butterfly locations/d=
irections to.<br class=3D""></b></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>=
<div class=3D"">Jeff Glassberg did few favors in his book when he complaine=
d that one or two unscrupulous collectors took every Mitchell's Satyr from =
one or more bogs in NJ -- and he seems to know who it was.&nbsp; But, he NE=
VER did mention a name in his books, nor any time in American Butterflies, =
his butterfly magazine. Why protect the guilty?<br class=3D""></div><div cl=
ass=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">As the author and editor of t=
he Butterflies of North Carolina website, <b class=3D"">I may have to ask T=
om Howard to strip off ALL of the Comments sections on ALL of the butterfly=
records on the website.</b>&nbsp;&nbsp; Tom and I will talk about this.<br=
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">And,=
at the risk of putting myself in some harm, as Derb has brought up this di=
sturbing and semi-illegal matter, I will point out a disturbing incident th=
at may get to some of this.&nbsp; When Jeff Pippen and I were at a site in =
Clay County years ago, after having seen the last Gorgone Checkerspot ever =
reported in NC, as we headed back to our cars we saw and spoke with Jeff Sl=
otten, a noted butterfly and moth collector from northern Florida.&nbsp; He=
held a large net, and even at 10-11 in the morning, he told us he was ther=
e collecting moths.&nbsp; We mentioned that we were looking for Gorgone Che=
ckerspot and told them that we didn't see any, and that we were worried tha=
t they had been collected out.&nbsp; He responded quickly "You can't collec=
t them out'"&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, all 3 of us lied that morning.&nbsp; But, in =
the last 10 or more years, no one has ever seen one there.&nbsp; And, he ha=
s asked me, Jeff Pippen, and maybe some others for directions to some speci=
es in NC, especially Two-spotted Skipper.&nbsp; So, one collector who defin=
itely knows a lot of the whereabouts of NC butterflies is Mr. Slotten.<br c=
lass=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Jeff P=
ippen has talked with a lepster from far out of state who mentioned that Co=
faqui Giant-Skipper still exists in NC, and I've heard the same things from=
another collector.&nbsp; I've heard that one or two collectors have dug up=
yucca plants at a now protected site in Alexander County, taken them home =
with a larval tube in them. and rear an adult later, which is then made int=
o a specimen.&nbsp; Essentially none of us, in many tries, has ever seen an=
adult in NC -- which means that there indeed is a collection ring out ther=
e outside the state that knows more about the species than we do here.&nbsp=
; I'm 95% sure that Baltimore Checkerspots have been collected out from man=
y sites in NC.&nbsp; We know that Two-spotted Skipper, Cobweb Skipper, Leon=
ard's Skipper, Rare Skipper, and some others are declining in NC, and these=
are collectors targets -- in addition to ones that Derb mentioned in an ea=
rlier post.<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div c=
lass=3D"">These incidents do not mean that these people are SELLING rare bu=
tterfly species.&nbsp; But it is obvious that these people at least KNOW wh=
o this or these eBay sellers are.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div=
><div class=3D"">
<div class=3D"">Even if collecting of butterflies in NC is not technically =
against the law -- they are not state protected -- there are protections fr=
om taking them from various parks, refuges, etc., that require permits for =
taking of plants and animals.&nbsp; I am 99.9% sure that out-of-state butte=
rfly collectors do not bother with permits.&nbsp; Most collectors take butt=
erfly for their personal collections, and other collect for a museum.&nbsp;=
Few of them I feel sure sell butterflies, and selling them on eBay would c=
ertainly tarnish any reputation as a scrupulous and honorable person.<br cl=
ass=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>

</div><div class=3D"">Jeff Pippen, the listserve owner/manager, will need t=
o attempt to seek out names of subscribers whom he knows or suspects of bei=
ng lurkers/collectors -- and remove them from the listserve.&nbsp; He might=
have some way to know who subscribes but has not posted.&nbsp; Such folks =
could be removed, for example.&nbsp; We'll see what Jeff Pippen has to say =
about all of this.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br cla=
ss=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But I think most of us, if not quite all of u=
s, are disgusted by this -- and selling NC butterflies HAS TO STOP!&nbsp; T=
hese are rare species in NC.<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=
=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Harry LeGrand<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><br clas=
s=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:53 AM Sam Davis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sam@dogwoodall=
iance.org" class=3D""><sam...></a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"">=
</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"">Edit&nbsp;/ correction on my earlier email:&nbsp;<div class=3D""><=
br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Collecting as a scientist is illegal in=
a NF without a permit, but collecting for recreational use is not. Collect=
ing in a National Park is illegal regardless without a permit.</div><div cl=
ass=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But either way, reporting the=
rare species may get them taken down :)</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"=
"></div><div class=3D"">Sam</div></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:40 AM=
Sam Davis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<sam...>" target=3D"_blank"=
class=3D""><sam...></a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">H=
i all -&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It may be=
worth going through and reporting items. You'll need an ebay account. Coll=
ecting on National Forests, like the West Virginia White specimen, is illeg=
al without explicit permission from the park management.</div><div class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I reported that one because it's my=
expertise, but I'm unsure on others.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=
=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Sam</div></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 9:2=
2 AM Derb Carter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<derbc...>" target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D""><derbc...></a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">There is a collector selling hundreds=
of specimens of rare butterflies on eBay, some up to $100 each.&nbsp; One =
of his main collecting sites appears to be North Carolina.&nbsp; "Brand new=
" specimens for sale from NC include Dusky Azure, Hessel's Hairstreak, Edwa=
rd's Hairstreak, King's Hairstreak, Helicta Satyr, Georgia Satyr, Little Me=
talmark, Two-spotted Skipper, Duke's Skipper, and Green Comma.&nbsp; These =
species are rare and some imperiled and monitored by the state Natural Heri=
tage Program.&nbsp; The site is at the link below.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
I strongly suspect that the collector is a lurker on the Carolinaleps lists=
erve.&nbsp; Otherwise, it would be nearly impossible to locate these rare s=
pecies in NC, and the sighting reports on the listserve provide a collectin=
g roadmap.&nbsp; Also, most of these rare species are very local and the kn=
own sites are in protected areas where collecting is prohibited or permits =
required.&nbsp; The Lepidopterists' Society statement on ethical collection=
of butterflies states collectors should consult with local experts before =
collecting rare or local species and obey all laws and restrictions.&nbsp; =
And collecting for science is one thing, but to sell on eBay is another.<br=
class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
This makes me leery about reporting locations on future sightings of rare o=
r imperiled species.&nbsp; As I strongly suspect the collector is reading t=
his, as a North Carolinian concerned about our natural diversity, I ask you=
to take your business elsewhere.<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=
=3D254505588802&amp;_ssn=3Diau111&amp;_pgn=3D15&amp;_skc=3D700&amp;rt=3Dnc_=
_;!!OToaGQ!-zJb9nRH9vuWvSMnGAl5Q2GgTwEyWOiLqxtT_EZukVVg2fZwcKY37Mxn2Q06rHgX=
3vY$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">https://urldefense.co=
m/v3/__https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=3D254505588802&amp;_ssn=3Diau11=
1&amp;_pgn=3D15&amp;_skc=3D700&amp;rt=3Dnc__;!!OToaGQ!-zJb9nRH9vuWvSMnGAl5Q=
2GgTwEyWOiLqxtT_EZukVVg2fZwcKY37Mxn2Q06rHgX3vY$</a> <br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
Derb Carter<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=
=3D""></div>-- <br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""=
><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px" class=3D""><di=
v class=3D"">Sam L. Davis, Ph.D.</div><div class=3D"">Conservation Scientis=
t</div><div class=3D"">Dogwood Alliance</div><div class=3D"">they/them/thei=
rs</div><div class=3D"">(828) 251-2525 ext. 19 (office)</div><div class=3D"=
">(828) 380-2482 (cell)</div><div class=3D"">----</div><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D""><span class=3D""></span><span class=3D""></span><img src=3D"https:/=
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