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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 22:47:26 -0400
From: Jeff Pippen (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: new pearly-eye field mark?


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All,

I looked over the pearly-eye photos on the Butterflies of America website a=
nd the =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D field mark seems to still hold up!

Cheers,
Jeff
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Jeffrey S. Pippen
Durham, NC=20
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> On Sep 28, 2020, at 10:38 PM, Harry LeGrand <hlegrandjr...> wrote:
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> I tested Jeff=E2=80=99s suggestion on posted photos on the Butterflies of=
North Carolina
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> Northern Pearly-eye: ALL 4 photos show only white dots on the HW eyespot=
s. So, correct if using the eyespot test
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> Southern Pearly-eye: THREE of the 4 photos show at least one white bar i=
n at least one HW eyespot. However, the Catawba County one shows ONLY round=
white dots. Thus, that record might be suspect. Southerns are quite rare =
in most of the Piedmont Except along the E and S edges such as in Wake Coun=
ty.=20
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> We need to check additional photos on other websites and elsewhere to see=
how well this holds up. We need a new field mark, as sometimes the club co=
lor isn=E2=80=99t obvious
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> Southerns should be all orange or yellow;
> Northerns and Creoles should be dark with orange or yellow only at the e=
nd of the club. Also, Northerns should be absent or very rare in the Coasta=
l Plain.=20=20
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> Harry LeGrand
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 28, 2020, at 10:15 PM, Jeff Pippen (via carolinaleps Mailing List=
) <carolinaleps...> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFButterfliers,
>>=20
>> This evening, Harry LeGrand and Lori Arent sent me a few pearly-eye phot=
os to peruse, and I noticed a possible field mark that I hadn=E2=80=99t hea=
rd of before. It appears that the white dots in the center of the large bl=
ack eyespots on the ventral wings appear as round dots in Northerns and as =
horizontal bars in at least some of the eyespots in Southern Pearly-eyes. =
I=E2=80=99d be interested in knowing how reliable this field mark is.
>>=20
>> For example, it seems to hold up pretty well on my photos:
>>=20
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/south=
ernpearlyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!5mpCQWUVyeynk50e7IuPbZz07GEKJlTimVwXD49CcWQeUtL=
ppA-NdZktk4Go3qMTK7E$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.=
com/butterflies/southernpearlyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1=
fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_CK1jQQVftdVx9Tq-zTGqO4s$>
>>=20
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/npear=
lyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!5mpCQWUVyeynk50e7IuPbZz07GEKJlTimVwXD49CcWQeUtLppA-NdZ=
ktk4GoROUK0_M$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/but=
terflies/npearlyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1fIAv8SK11tk3m6=
JVR_CK1jQQVftdVx9Tq-Oxh5kwQ$>
>>=20=20
>> This may be a useful character when other field marks are obscured or am=
biguous, like antennal club patterns. Let me know what you think from your=
experience or photos!
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff
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>> Jeffrey S. Pippen
>> Durham, NC=20
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeffpippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!5mpCQW=
UVyeynk50e7IuPbZz07GEKJlTimVwXD49CcWQeUtLppA-NdZktk4Go9t6SxHQ$ <https://ur=
ldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeffpippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8k=
VxN5Zu1fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_CK1jQQVftdVx9Tq-B0DE_s0$>


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pace; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">All,<div class=3D"=
"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I looked over the pearly-eye photos =
on the Butterflies of America website and the =E2=80=9Cnew=E2=80=9D field m=
ark seems to still hold up!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"">Jeff<br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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iv><div class=3D"">Jeffrey S. Pippen</div><div class=3D"">Durham, NC&nbsp;<=
/div><div class=3D""><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeff=
pippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!5mpCQWUVyeynk50e7IuPbZz07GEKJlTimVwXD49CcWQeUtLppA-N=
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Sep 28, 2020, at 10:38 PM, Harry LeGrand &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hlegrandjr@=
gmail.com" class=3D""><hlegrandjr...></a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D=
"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta http-equiv=3D"content-typ=
e" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" clas=
s=3D"">I tested Jeff=E2=80=99s suggestion on posted photos on the Butterfli=
es of North Carolina<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">No=
rthern Pearly-eye: &nbsp;ALL 4 photos show only white dots on the HW eyespo=
ts. So, correct if using the eyespot test</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div class=3D"">Southern Pearly-eye: &nbsp;THREE of the 4 photos s=
how at least one white bar in at least one HW eyespot. However, the Catawba=
County one shows ONLY round white dots. Thus, that record might be suspect=
. &nbsp;Southerns are quite rare in most of the Piedmont Except along the E=
and S edges such as in Wake County.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=
=3D""></div><div class=3D"">We need to check additional photos on other web=
sites and elsewhere to see how well this holds up. We need a new field mark=
, as sometimes the club color isn=E2=80=99t obvious</div><div class=3D""><b=
r class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Southerns should be all orange or yellow=
;</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;Northerns and Creoles should be dark with oran=
ge or yellow only at the end of the club. Also, Northerns should be absent =
or very rare in the Coastal Plain. &nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D=
""></div><div class=3D"">Harry LeGrand</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">=
</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><=
div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><br clas=
s=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 28,=
2020, at 10:15 PM, Jeff Pippen (via carolinaleps Mailing List) &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>" class=3D""><carolinaleps...></a>&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"C=
ontent-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">Butterfliers,=
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This evening, Harry Le=
Grand and Lori Arent sent me a few pearly-eye photos to peruse, and I notic=
ed a possible field mark that I hadn=E2=80=99t heard of before. &nbsp;It ap=
pears that the white dots in the center of the large black eyespots on the =
ventral wings appear as round dots in Northerns and as horizontal bars in a=
t least some of the eyespots in Southern Pearly-eyes. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99d be =
interested in knowing how reliable this field mark is.</div><div class=3D""=
><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">For example, it seems to hold up pret=
ty well on my photos:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=
=3D""><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/but=
terflies/southernpearlyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1fIAv8SK=
11tk3m6JVR_CK1jQQVftdVx9Tq-zTGqO4s$" class=3D"">https://www.jeffpippen.com/=
butterflies/southernpearlyeye.htm</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><=
/div><div class=3D""><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jef=
fpippen.com/butterflies/npearlyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu=
1fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_CK1jQQVftdVx9Tq-Oxh5kwQ$" class=3D"">https://www.jeffpip=
pen.com/butterflies/npearlyeye.htm</a></div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><di=
v class=3D"">This may be a useful character when other field marks are obsc=
ured or ambiguous, like antennal club patterns. &nbsp;Let me know what you =
think from your experience or photos!</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><=
/div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"">Jeff<br class=3D""><div c=
lass=3D"">
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t-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; wor=
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t-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div=
class=3D""><div class=3D"">--</div><div class=3D"">Jeffrey S. Pippen</div>=
<div class=3D"">Durham, NC&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><a href=3D"https://ur=
ldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeffpippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8k=
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ffpippen.com/</a></div></div></div></div>
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