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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 07:17:53 -0400
From: Dennis Forsythe (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: new pearly-eye field mark?

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Me too

Dennis F

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:14 AM Jan Hansen <carolinaleps...> wrote:

> That field mark holds up on all of my photos as well.
>
> Jan Hansen
> Chapel Hill NC
> 919-259-9423
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.otusasiotours.com__;!!OToaGQ!-qEFj=
-zfbRVmVA7jr-CBCPY2waIGbnm9yFsBznsCOfCVYRLOInrwgLKmc48uwngvlLY$=20
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.otusasiotours.com__;!!OToaGQ!4r_A=
Be13Crxd2iXxsb_hqtSPpstBKYTdtZXgUW6bJq5-nJFEo4jsMJeX74iElA-0ins$>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 28, 2020, at 10:54 PM, Rob Van Epps (via carolinaleps Mailing List)
> <carolinaleps...> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF Very interesting observation Jeff!
>
> I checked my photos - mostly from Mecklenburg County or surrounding
> counties and from the NC Sandhills Game Land, but some from FL and VA. A=
ll
> my photos show the same as you observed - the white inside the eyespots a=
re
> round spots for Northern and at least one has a bar on Southern. Creole
> seems to be more variable based on my photos (all Mecklenburg for Creole).
>
> Rob Van Epps
> Davidson, NC
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 28, 2020, at 10:15 PM, Jeff Pippen <carolinaleps...> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF Butterfliers,
>
> This evening, Harry LeGrand and Lori Arent sent me a few pearly-eye photos
> to peruse, and I noticed a possible field mark that I hadn=E2=80=99t hear=
d of
> before. It appears that the white dots in the center of the large black
> eyespots on the ventral wings appear as round dots in Northerns and as
> horizontal bars in at least some of the eyespots in Southern Pearly-eyes.
> I=E2=80=99d be interested in knowing how reliable this field mark is.
>
> For example, it seems to hold up pretty well on my photos:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/southe=
rnpearlyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-qEFj-zfbRVmVA7jr-CBCPY2waIGbnm9yFsBznsCOfCVYRLO=
InrwgLKmc48uS9NO9CU$=20
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/south=
ernpearlyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_CK1=
jQQVftdVx9Tq-zTGqO4s$>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/npearl=
yeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-qEFj-zfbRVmVA7jr-CBCPY2waIGbnm9yFsBznsCOfCVYRLOInrwgLK=
mc48uy6OJHmc$=20
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/npear=
lyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_CK1jQQVftd=
Vx9Tq-Oxh5kwQ$>
>
> This may be a useful character when other field marks are obscured or
> ambiguous, like antennal club patterns. Let me know what you think from
> your experience or photos!
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff
> --
> Jeffrey S. Pippen
> Durham, NC
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeffpippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!-qEFj-z=
fbRVmVA7jr-CBCPY2waIGbnm9yFsBznsCOfCVYRLOInrwgLKmc48ud79JpLQ$=20
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeffpippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOS=
lmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_CK1jQQVftdVx9Tq-B0DE_s0$>
>
>

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Dennis M. Forsythe PhD
South Carolina Christmas Bird Count Editor
South Carolina eButterfly reviewer
Emeritus Professor of Biology
The Citadel
171 Moultrie St,
Charleston, SC 29409
843.795.3996-home
843.953.7264-fax
843.708.1605-cell
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Me too<div><br></div><div>Dennis F</div></div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 29, 20=
20 at 7:14 AM Jan Hansen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>">carol=
<inaleps...></a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">That field mark holds up on all of my pho=
tos as well.=C2=A0<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Jan Hansen</div><div>Chapel=
Hill NC</div><div>919-259-9423</div><div><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com=
/v3/__http://www.otusasiotours.com__;!!OToaGQ!4r_ABe13Crxd2iXxsb_hqtSPpstBK=
YTdtZXgUW6bJq5-nJFEo4jsMJeX74iElA-0ins$" target=3D"_blank">www.otusasiotour=
s.com</a></div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 28, 2020, at 10:54 PM, Rob Van Epps (via =
carolinaleps Mailing List) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></d=
iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF=C2=A0Very interesti=
ng observation Jeff! =C2=A0<div><br></div><div>I checked my photos - mostly=
from Mecklenburg County or surrounding counties and from the NC Sandhills =
Game Land, but some from FL and VA.=C2=A0 All my photos show the same as yo=
u observed - the white inside the eyespots are round spots for Northern and=
at least one has a bar on Southern.=C2=A0 Creole seems to be more variable=
based on my photos (all Mecklenburg for Creole).=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>=
Rob Van Epps</div><div>Davidson, NC<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iP=
hone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 28, 2020, a=
t 10:15 PM, Jeff Pippen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>" target=
=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
Butterfliers,<div><br></div><div>This evening, Harry LeGrand and Lori Arent=
sent me a few pearly-eye photos to peruse, and I noticed a possible field =
mark that I hadn=E2=80=99t heard of before.=C2=A0 It appears that the white=
dots in the center of the large black eyespots on the ventral wings appear=
as round dots in Northerns and as horizontal bars in at least some of the =
eyespots in Southern Pearly-eyes.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d be interested in knowin=
g how reliable this field mark is.</div><div><br></div><div>For example, it=
seems to hold up pretty well on my photos:</div><div><br></div><div><a hre=
f=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/sou=
thernpearlyeye.htm__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_C=
K1jQQVftdVx9Tq-zTGqO4s$" target=3D"_blank">https://www.jeffpippen.com/butte=
rflies/southernpearlyeye.htm</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https:=
//urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/npearlyeye.htm=
__;!!OToaGQ!-u2AOSlmb3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_CK1jQQVftdVx9Tq-Oxh=
5kwQ$" target=3D"_blank">https://www.jeffpippen.com/butterflies/npearlyeye.=
htm</a></div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>This may be a useful character when othe=
r field marks are obscured or ambiguous, like antennal club patterns.=C2=A0=
Let me know what you think from your experience or photos!</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Jeff<br><div>
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0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div><div>--</=
div><div>Jeffrey S. Pippen</div><div>Durham, NC=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"=
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3N_1FhXk8kVxN5Zu1fIAv8SK11tk3m6JVR_CK1jQQVftdVx9Tq-B0DE_s0$" target=3D"_bla=
nk">http://www.jeffpippen.com/</a></div></div></div></div>
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ote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dennis M. Forsythe PhD<div>South Carolina Christm=
as Bird Count Editor</div><div>South Carolina eButterfly reviewer</div><div=
>Emeritus Professor of Biology</div><div>The Citadel</div><div><div><div>17=
1 Moultrie St,<br>Charleston, SC 29409<br>843.795.3996-home<br>843.953.7264=
-fax<br>843.708.1605-cell<br><a href=3D"mailto:<dennis.forsythe...>" t=
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