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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 17:49:35 -0400
From: Salman Abdulali (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: march leps + question(s) about azures


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According to Harry Pavulaan:

> American holly (Ilex opaca) unfortunately, attracts BOTH Holly Azure and
> Summer Azure (spring brood). We [Pavulaan and Wright] discovered this af=
ter
> describing Holly Azure. Holly Azure uses Ilex opaca and inkberry (Ilex gl=
abra)
> exclusively in southern New Jersey, from where we described the butterfly=
, and
> Summer Azure does not produce a spring flight, which is both interesting =
and
> odd at the same time. In subsequent years, I discovered a site in Maryla=
nd
> where Spring, Summer, and Holly azures were ALL using Ilex opaca! What w=
as
> odd, and also disturbing, was that Holly Azure had disappeared from that =
site,
> apparently being replaced by Spring Azure and Summer Azure in the holly
> forests on the western side of Chesapeake Bay. Then I discovered that Su=
mmer
> and Spring azures were using Ilex opaca all around the Chesapeake Bay. S=
o it
> is possible that Summer Azure uses Ilex opaca down south too but apparent=
ly it
> does not use Ilex glabra or yaupon (Ilex vomitoria). I seriously doubt y=
ou=E2=80=99ll
> find Spring Azure on Ilex opaca down there [in NC] but it is possible.

> Your (in eastern NC) earliest azures are certainly Summer Azure (spring
> brood). These can emerge in mid-winter, while Spring Azure and Holly Azu=
re do
> not, except in March. Holly Azure seems capable of emerging in early Mar=
ch,
> thus being very difficult to distinguish from Summer Azure, which emerges=
in
> March. The rule would be: if there is holly (Ilex spp.), it could be eit=
her
> Holly or Summer azures; if there is NO holly, then it cannot be Holly Azu=
re.

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Moreover, since there is Holly almost everywhere, and (in good years) there=
are Summer Azures flying almost everywhere in the summer, the presence or =
absence of Holly is not really helpful for identification.

Salman Abdulali
Greenville, NC

> On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Jan Hansen (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <=
<carolinaleps...> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Jeff and everyone,
>=20
> I was not aware that Summer Azures have been documented using hollies, an=
d given that information, I=E2=80=99m wondering if any azure in the Coastal=
Plain should be reported as Summer/ Holly Azure if a diagnostic photo isn=
=E2=80=99t provided.=20
>=20
> I have been operating under the assumption that an azure that is hanging =
around and seemingly attracted to a holly can be safely called a Holly Azur=
e, but now that seems like a faulty assumption. Perhaps a better assumption=
is that it is highly likely to be a Holly Azure, but could be a Summer Az=
ure, and given that possibility, regardless of how slim, is it better to si=
mply report Holly/Summer Azure?
>=20
> I=E2=80=99m reminded of the =E2=80=9CWestern Flycatcher=E2=80=9D complex =
in the birding world. I feel confident that any =E2=80=9Cwestern type=E2=80=
=9D flycatcher that turns up in the east is almost certainly a Pacific-slop=
e Flycatcher, but unless I hear it I can=E2=80=99t rule out the possibility=
of it being a Cordilleran. Hence I am unwilling to label any non-vocalizin=
g member of this complex, despite knowing that the odds heavily favor Pacif=
ic-slope given its tendency to wander widely versus the more sedentary natu=
re of Cordilleran.=20
>=20
> It sounds as though I should be treating Summer and Holly Azures in the s=
ame way. Any thoughts on this conundrum would be appreciated.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Jan Hansen
> Chapel Hill NC
> 919-259-9423
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.otusasiotours.com__;!!OToaGQ!5alN4=
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>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Jeff Pippen <carolinaleps...> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFHi Matt and All,
>>=20
>> Great questions and nice sightings!
>>=20
>> Regarding posting every sighting, common or rare, yes, if you would like=
to do that, we are always happy to read them! Harry LeGrand additionally =
records the data in a master spreadsheet he uses to update the annual Notes=
on the Butterflies of NC Approximation by him and Tom Howard. Personally,=
if there=E2=80=99s only a few common things on a day=E2=80=99s list, I don=
=E2=80=99t post them, but I enter them into a spreadsheet that I send to Ha=
rry & Tom at the end of the year, so they end up with a complete record of =
all my sightings. I=E2=80=99m sure they=E2=80=99d be happy to have you do =
that as well, if you=E2=80=99d like.
>>=20
>> Re: your azures, to be SURE, you would want to get a good photo/specimen=
of the upper sides. Both Summer and Holly Azures can use American Holly fo=
r a host plant, and Spring Azure could certainly be on the wing now, too. =
Note that the use of hollies by Summer Azure is a relatively newly document=
ed phenomenon so may not be in the references.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Jeff
>> --
>> Jeffrey S. Pippen
>> Durham, NC=20
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeffpippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!5alN4_=
bXVo_bcBWSAluIQuk3udfD2Xlfp9BRBCGF6tPJ4wmeX6HDbCrkcx0Qf3JJNx4$ <https://ur=
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BqsOFbFpogQ-U3yflXPMVWEYiqGtJbCCjEnPFNhv-BUMzEKE$>
>>> On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Matt Spangler (via carolinaleps Mailing Li=
st) <carolinaleps...> <mailto:<carolinaleps...>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> I=E2=80=99m relatively new to the listserv and trying to get a feel for=
whether to report every single sighting, or only rare sightings, or only i=
mpressive double-digit checklists, etc. I haven=E2=80=99t seen too many lep=
s so far this year, so I figured I=E2=80=99d wait to send an email until I =
saw some =E2=80=9Cgood=E2=80=9D ones.=20
>>>=20=20
>>> On 3/28, at the Sandhills Community College gardens (Moore Co) I saw th=
e following:
>>> ETS 3
>>> Cloudless Sulphur 2
>>> Henry=E2=80=99s Elfin 3 (one ovipositing on Am. Holly)
>>> Azure sp. 2.
>>>=20=20
>>> I have a question about the azures. Two of them were flying high around=
one or two American Hollies, occasionally landing near the top (but only f=
or an instant) (perhaps ovipositing, but I couldn=E2=80=99t tell), then dep=
arting to continue circling the area, always sticking close to the holly tr=
ees. Do you think it=E2=80=99s safe to call the azures Holly Azures given t=
heir affinity for the hollies, or might they be spring-form Summers? I read=
over the reference material that Salman shared earlier this spring, and it=
seems that either are possible. I got some poor quality pictures; I expect=
they will not be helpful, but here they are anyway: https://urldefense.com=
/v3/__https://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/view/107716__;!!OToaG=
Q!5alN4_bXVo_bcBWSAluIQuk3udfD2Xlfp9BRBCGF6tPJ4wmeX6HDbCrkcx0QpiNNK20$ <ht=
tps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/v=
iew/107716__;!!OToaGQ!_57K8ila57uowa_0c9YBwgnYphmVoULCKYfob1Cgd8jt3pFxPb_pX=
J5GibSPhUIj-bM$>.
>>>=20=20
>>>=20=20
>>> Other sightings from March:
>>>=20=20
>>> 3/27, Orange Co, Occoneechee Mountain SNA
>>> ETS 1
>>> Azure sp. 1 (Another azure question=E2=80=94is it safe to call these sp=
ring-form Summer? Does anyone have more precise date ranges for when Spring=
Azures fly in the piedmont?)
>>> (no elfins)
>>>=20=20
>>> 3/26 Chatham Co, Home
>>> Falcate Orangetip 2
>>> ETS 1
>>>=20=20
>>> 3/22 Chatham Co, Jordan Lake ESF
>>> ETS 1
>>>=20=20
>>> 3/18 Chatham Co, Home
>>> Falcate Orangetip 1=20
>>>=20=20
>>> 3/14 Chatham Co, Home
>>> Question Mark 1
>>> Falcate Orangetip 1
>>> Azure sp. 1 (same question as above, but from 3/14)
>>>=20=20
>>> 3/14 Chatham Co, Jordan Lake ESF
>>> Azure sp. 4 (same)
>>>=20=20
>>> 3/12 Pender Co, Holly Shelter GL
>>> Cloudless Sulphur 2
>>>=20=20
>>> 3/9 Chatham Co, Home
>>> Question Mark 1
>>>=20=20
>>> Best,
>>>=20=20
>>> Matt Spangler
>>> Chatham Co, NC
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: s=
pace; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">According to Harry Pavulaa=
n:<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"=
cite" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; ver=
tical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;,=
serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">American holl=
y (Ilex opaca) unfortunately, attracts BOTH Holly Azure and</span><br style=
=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Geor=
gia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><sp=
an style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baselin=
e; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 1=
6px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">Summer Azure (spring brood). &nbs=
p;We [Pavulaan and Wright] discovered this after</span><br style=3D"caret-c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;=
Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D=
"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-fam=
ily: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color:=
rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">describing Holly Azure. Holly Azure uses Ile=
x opaca and inkberry (Ilex glabra)</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, =
51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Char=
ter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; =
margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, =
&quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128,=
0);" class=3D"">exclusively in southern New Jersey, from where we describe=
d the butterfly, and</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color=
: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, ser=
if; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; p=
adding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstrea=
m Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D=
"">Summer Azure does not produce a spring flight, which is both interesting=
and</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51=
); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 1=
6px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; ver=
tical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;,=
serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">odd at the sa=
me time. &nbsp;In subsequent years, I discovered a site in Maryland</span><=
br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-fami=
ly: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=
=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align=
: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; fon=
t-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">where Spring, Summer, an=
d Holly azures were ALL using Ilex opaca! &nbsp;What was</span><br style=3D=
"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia=
, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; =
font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px=
; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">odd, and also disturbing, was that H=
olly Azure had disappeared from that site,</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstr=
eam Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"borde=
r: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: G=
eorgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(1=
28, 128, 0);" class=3D"">apparently being replaced by Spring Azure and Summ=
er Azure in the holly</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); colo=
r: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, se=
rif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; =
padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstre=
am Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=
=3D"">forests on the western side of Chesapeake Bay. &nbsp;Then I discovere=
d that Summer</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(5=
1, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; fon=
t-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding:=
0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Chart=
er&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">and =
Spring azures were using Ilex opaca all around the Chesapeake Bay. &nbsp;So=
it</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51)=
; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16=
px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vert=
ical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, =
serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">is possible th=
at Summer Azure uses Ilex opaca down south too but apparently it</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family:=
Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D"=
"><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: ba=
seline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-si=
ze: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">does not use Ilex glabra or =
yaupon (Ilex vomitoria). &nbsp;I seriously doubt you=E2=80=99ll</span><br s=
tyle=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: =
Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""=
><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: bas=
eline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-siz=
e: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">find Spring Azure on Ilex opa=
ca down there [in NC] but it is possible.</span></blockquote><div class=3D"=
"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""=
><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: bas=
eline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-siz=
e: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">Your (in eastern NC) earliest=
azures are certainly Summer Azure (spring</span><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstr=
eam Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"borde=
r: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: G=
eorgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(1=
28, 128, 0);" class=3D"">brood). &nbsp;These can emerge in mid-winter, whil=
e Spring Azure and Holly Azure do</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 5=
1, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Chart=
er&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; m=
argin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &=
quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, =
0);" class=3D"">not, except in March. &nbsp;Holly Azure seems capable of em=
erging in early March,</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); col=
or: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, s=
erif; font-size: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px;=
padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstr=
eam Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=
=3D"">thus being very difficult to distinguish from Summer Azure, which eme=
rges in</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51,=
51); font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size=
: 16px;" class=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; =
vertical-align: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quo=
t;, serif; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">March. &nb=
sp;The rule would be: if there is holly (Ilex spp.), it could be either</sp=
an><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(51, 51, 51); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-=
family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; font-size: 16px;" cl=
ass=3D""><span style=3D"border: 0px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-al=
ign: baseline; font-family: Georgia, &quot;Bitstream Charter&quot;, serif; =
font-size: 16px; color: rgb(128, 128, 0);" class=3D"">Holly or Summer azure=
s; if there is NO holly, then it cannot be Holly Azure.</span></blockquote>=
<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/_=
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nual-azure-refresher/</a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div cl=
ass=3D"">Moreover, since there is Holly almost everywhere, and (in good yea=
rs) there are Summer Azures flying almost everywhere in the summer, the pre=
sence or absence of Holly is not really helpful for identification.</div><d=
iv class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Salman Abdulali</div><di=
v class=3D"">Greenville, NC<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Mar 29, 2021, at 5:26 PM, Jan Ha=
nsen (via carolinaleps Mailing List) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:carolinaleps@duk=
e.edu" class=3D""><carolinaleps...></a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Ap=
ple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" =
content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=
=3D"">Hi Jeff and everyone,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=
=3D"">I was not aware that Summer Azures have been documented using hollies=
, and given that information, I=E2=80=99m wondering if any azure in the Coa=
stal Plain should be reported as Summer/ Holly Azure if a diagnostic photo =
isn=E2=80=99t provided.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><di=
v class=3D"">I have been operating under the assumption that an azure that =
is hanging around and seemingly attracted to a holly can be safely called a=
Holly Azure, but now that seems like a faulty assumption. Perhaps a better=
assumption is that it is highly likely to be a Holly Azure, but could &nbs=
p;be a Summer Azure, and given that possibility, regardless of how slim, is=
it better to simply report Holly/Summer Azure?</div><div class=3D""><br cl=
ass=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m reminded of the =E2=80=9CWestern=
Flycatcher=E2=80=9D complex in the birding world. I feel confident that an=
y =E2=80=9Cwestern type=E2=80=9D flycatcher that turns up in the east is al=
most certainly a Pacific-slope Flycatcher, but unless I hear it I can=E2=80=
=99t rule out the possibility of it being a Cordilleran. Hence I am unwilli=
ng to label any non-vocalizing member of this complex, despite knowing that=
the odds heavily favor Pacific-slope given its tendency to wander widely v=
ersus the more sedentary nature of Cordilleran.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">=
<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It sounds as though I should be treati=
ng Summer and Holly Azures in the same way. Any thoughts on this conundrum =
would be appreciated.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div c=
lass=3D"">Jan Hansen</div><div class=3D"">Chapel Hill NC</div><div class=3D=
"">919-259-9423</div><div class=3D""><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/_=
_http://www.otusasiotours.com__;!!OToaGQ!4X-J5y40iiK6cFjqFdVSJxqKMKnFMK0j6C=
YPZQ6ytiRDVDN177hzB90Yb731L5In2O8$" class=3D"">www.otusasiotours.com</a></d=
iv><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On =
Mar 29, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Jeff Pippen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:carolinaleps@d=
uke.edu" class=3D""><carolinaleps...></a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"t=
ext/html charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">Hi Matt and All,<div class=3D""><br cl=
ass=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Great questions and nice sightings!</div><di=
v class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Regarding posting every s=
ighting, common or rare, yes, if you would like to do that, we are always h=
appy to read them! &nbsp;Harry LeGrand additionally records the data in a m=
aster spreadsheet he uses to update the annual Notes on the Butterflies of =
NC Approximation by him and Tom Howard. &nbsp;Personally, if there=E2=80=99=
s only a few common things on a day=E2=80=99s list, I don=E2=80=99t post th=
em, but I enter them into a spreadsheet that I send to Harry &amp; Tom at t=
he end of the year, so they end up with a complete record of all my sightin=
gs. &nbsp;I=E2=80=99m sure they=E2=80=99d be happy to have you do that as w=
ell, if you=E2=80=99d like.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Re: your azures, to be SURE, you would want to get a good photo/=
specimen of the upper sides. Both Summer and Holly Azures can use American =
Holly for a host plant, and Spring Azure could certainly be on the wing now=
, too. &nbsp;Note that the use of hollies by Summer Azure is a relatively n=
ewly documented phenomenon so may not be in the references.</div><div class=
=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div class=3D"">Jef=
f<br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-=
stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-br=
eak: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div style=3D"letter-spacing: normal; t=
ext-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: norm=
al; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-wor=
d; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><di=
v class=3D""><div class=3D"">--</div><div class=3D"">Jeffrey S. Pippen</div=
><div class=3D"">Durham, NC&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><a href=3D"https://u=
rldefense.com/v3/__http://www.jeffpippen.com/__;!!OToaGQ!4_3p8J4gVlbbxxii-P=
LBqsOFbFpogQ-U3yflXPMVWEYiqGtJbCCjEnPFNhv-BUMzEKE$" class=3D"">http://www.j=
effpippen.com/</a></div></div></div></div>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div cl=
ass=3D"">On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Matt Spangler (via carolinaleps Maili=
ng List) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>" class=3D"">carolinale=
<ps...></a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><di=
v class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-=
family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-al=
ign: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; wi=
dows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style=
=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=
=3D"">I=E2=80=99m relatively new to the listserv and trying to get a feel f=
or whether to report every single sighting, or only rare sightings, or only=
impressive double-digit checklists, etc. I haven=E2=80=99t seen too many l=
eps so far this year, so I figured I=E2=80=99d wait to send an email until =
I saw some =E2=80=9Cgood=E2=80=9D ones.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space=
">&nbsp;</span><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-=
size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&=
nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: C=
alibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">On 3/28, at the Sandhills Community College=
gardens (Moore Co) I saw the following:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div st=
yle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" cla=
ss=3D"">ETS 3<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Cloudless Sulphur 2=
<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fon=
t-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Henry=E2=80=99s Elfin 3 (one ovi=
positing on Am. Holly)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in=
; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Azure sp. =
2.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; f=
ont-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></=
div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-=
serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">I have a question about the azures.<span c=
lass=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Two of them were flying hig=
h around one or two American Hollies, occasionally landing near the top (bu=
t only for an instant) (perhaps ovipositing, but I couldn=E2=80=99t tell), =
then departing to continue circling the area, always sticking close to the =
holly trees. Do you think it=E2=80=99s safe to call the azures Holly Azures=
given their affinity for the hollies, or might they be spring-form Summers=
? I read over the reference material that Salman shared earlier this spring=
, and it seems that either are possible. I got some poor quality pictures; =
I expect they will not be helpful, but here they are anyway:<span class=3D"=
Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__=
https://www.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/view/107716__;!!OToaGQ!_57K=
8ila57uowa_0c9YBwgnYphmVoULCKYfob1Cgd8jt3pFxPb_pXJ5GibSPhUIj-bM$" style=3D"=
color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">https://www=
.e-butterfly.org/ebapp/en/checklists/view/107716</a>.<o:p class=3D""></o:p>=
</div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, san=
s-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Other sightings from March:<o:p=
class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fa=
mily: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;=
" class=3D"">3/27, Orange Co, Occoneechee Mountain SNA<o:p class=3D""></o:p=
></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sa=
ns-serif;" class=3D"">ETS 1<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Azure=
sp. 1<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">(Ano=
ther azure question=E2=80=94is it safe to call these spring-form Summer?</b=
><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Does anyone have more p=
recise date ranges for when Spring Azures fly in the piedmont?)<o:p class=
=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">(no elfins)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><di=
v style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; fo=
nt-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">3/26 Chatham C=
o, Home<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11=
pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Falcate Orangetip 2<o:p c=
lass=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-fami=
ly: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">ETS 1<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" c=
lass=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">3/22 Chatham Co,=
Jordan Lake ESF<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font=
-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">ETS 1<o:p class=
=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div sty=
le=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" clas=
s=3D"">3/18 Chatham Co, Home<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margi=
n: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Falc=
ate Orangetip 1<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p clas=
s=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:=
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div st=
yle=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" cla=
ss=3D"">3/14 Chatham Co, Home<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"marg=
in: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Que=
stion Mark 1<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-siz=
e: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Falcate Orangetip 1<=
o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font=
-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Azure sp. 1<b class=3D""><span cl=
ass=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>(same question as above, but fro=
m 3/14)</b><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size=
: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp=
;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">3/14 Chatham Co, Jordan Lake ESF<o:p class=3D""=
></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calib=
ri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Azure sp. 4 (same)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><=
div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">3/12 Pender =
Co, Holly Shelter GL<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Cloudless Su=
lphur 2<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11=
pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o=
:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">3/9 Chatham Co, Home<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><di=
v style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"=
class=3D"">Question Mark 1<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin=
: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; fo=
nt-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Best,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></di=
v><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-se=
rif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0i=
n; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Matt Span=
gler<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt;=
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Chatham Co, NC<o:p class=3D"=
"></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Cali=
bri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/=
/spanglerwoodbirds.com__;!!OToaGQ!_57K8ila57uowa_0c9YBwgnYphmVoULCKYfob1Cgd=
8jt3pFxPb_pXJ5GibSP3P_MXZA$" style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decorati=
on: underline;" class=3D"">https://spanglerwoodbirds.com</a></div></div></d=
iv></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div></div><=
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