List: Carolina-Leps
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 10:20:09 -0400
From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...> Subject: Re: more name changes? |
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OK. I just made this name change on the Butterflies of North Carolina website now. Looking at Pelham 2021, this change does NOT change the checklist order, thankfully:
Tawny-edged Skipper (Polites themistocles) Peck's Skipper (P. peckius) Southern Broken-dash (P. otho) Northern Broken-dash (P.egeremet) Little Glassywing (Vernia verna)
Note that the seemingly very similar Crossline Skipper was moved out of Polites about 2 years ago to Limochores -- not that I remember that new name!
The only troubling thing is that I fear that Mr. Wallengren -- presumably Hans Daniel Johan Wallengren -- is likely turning over in his grave -- as he's lost (the only??) two species named after him.
Harry LeGrand
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:50 AM Salman Abdulali <salman.abdulali...> wrote:
> Another change in Pelham=E2=80=99s catalog: > > Wallengrenia is now a subgenus of Polites. The two Broken-Dashes are > Polites otho and Polites egeremet. > > Salman Abdulali > > > On Feb 8, 2021, at 1:56 PM, Harry LeGrand <hlegrandjr...> wrote: > > Technically, yes, it is too late to get into the 28th Approximation -- > though Tom could re-do it with the 4 revised pages. but, it's probably n= ot > worth doing, as that is simply a name change, and not some substantial da= ta > change that we feel is needed before we bother with "upsetting the apple > cart". > > What I have just done -- *I went into each of the 4 species accounts and > edited the name from Speyeria xxxxx to now Argynnis xxxxx.* So, when you > go to a species page on the website: > > Butterflies of North Carolina (ncparks.gov) > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://auth1.dpr.ncparks.gov/nbnc/a/account= s.php__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorzXsHkjFNzU= EF0PQkCYM$ > > > you will see the new name -- Argynnis diana, for example, with Speyeria > diana as the synonym. And, if you click on the PDF for each of the four > species (Diana, Great Spangled, Aphrodite, and Regal), you will see the n= ew > name on the PDF. So, for example, if you printed out a paper set of the > 28th, if you want you can print out each of these 4 pages and replace them > in your spiral binder, etc. (I simply saved the 28th to my computer, as > most of you may have done. So, I'm going to leave that alone.) > > FYI -- here is the link to the revised Pelham catalogue, now dates as > revised to 28 January 2021. I bookmark this on my computer, in case I wa= nt > to get to it easily. > > A Catalogue of the Butterflies of the United States and Canada by Jonathan > P. Pelham (butterfliesofamerica.com) > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/US-Can-C= at.htm__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorzXsHkjFNz= UEF7aF9SkM$ > > > Harry LeGrand > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 12:14 AM Salman Abdulali < > <salman.abdulali...> wrote: > >> It may be too late for the 28th, but Pelham has updated his catalog. The >> only one of these changes adopted is to treat *Speyeria* as a subgenus >> of *Argynnis*. >> >> *Simonsen, (2006), Biol. J. Linn. Soc. 89(4): 627-673 and Simonsen et al. >> (2006), Insect Syst. Evol. 37(4): 405-418, made compelling arguments >> that Speyeria is a synonym of Argynnis. Zhang et al. (2020), Tax. Rep. I= nt. >> Lepid. Surv. 8(7): 17, fig. 10, completed the task and is adopted here* >> >> >> Salman >> >> On Nov 29, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing >> List) <carolinaleps...> wrote: >> >> Thanks, maybe! >> >> For the next approximation of the *Butterflies of North Carolina* (28th) >> PDF, as well as the website, I plan to wait until, or if, Pelham follows >> these names in his checklist, which is now the most often followed list = for >> scientific names and taxonomic sequence. His last update was 7 August >> 2020. (It does not provide common names.) >> >> Harry LeGrand >> >> A Catalogue of the Butterflies of the United States and Canada by >> Jonathan P. Pelham (butterfliesofamerica.com) >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/US-Can-= Cat.htm__;!!OToaGQ!7VZbwPNameGiOWgdgCKrGE45ZHgUX92lDFwrPpB4z_8z0C1gfm5bMVGY= wtkN1X7rYJ4$> >> >> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 11:43 AM Salman Abdulali <carolinaleps...> >> wrote: >> >>> Genomic evidence suggests further changes of butterfly names >>> Jing Zhang, Qian Cong, Jinhui Shen, Paul A. Opler and Nick V. Grishin >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/ttr= -8-7.pdf__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorzXsHkjF= NzUEFDt_8XmY$=20 >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/tt= r-8-7.pdf__;!!OToaGQ!61GMDrezq2Pg2OzyM4OjTDzys_h3GxtECB62IrtiTLDI1mfAhgUC3z= zWP6Ff63j1l4s$> >>> >>> According to the authors: >>> >>> *Speyeria* is a subgenus of *Argynnis*. >>> >>> The North and South American populations of the Gulf Fritillary are >>> separate species. The North American species is *Dione incarnata*. >>> >>> *Polygonia* is a subgenus of *Nymphalis*. >>> >>> Salman Abdulali >>> Greenville, NC >>> >> >> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>OK.=C2=A0 I just made this name change on the Butterf= lies of North Carolina website now.=C2=A0 <br></div><div>Looking at Pelham = 2021, this change does NOT change the checklist order, thankfully:</div><di= v><br></div><div>Tawny-edged Skipper (Polites themistocles)<br></div><div>P= eck's Skipper (P. peckius)</div><div>Southern Broken-dash (P. otho)</di= v><div>Northern Broken-dash (P.egeremet)</div><div>Little Glassywing (Verni= a verna)</div><div><br></div><div>Note that the seemingly very similar Cros= sline Skipper was moved out of Polites about 2 years ago to Limochores -- n= ot that I remember that new name!</div><div><br></div><div>The only troubli= ng thing is that I fear that Mr. Wallengren -- presumably Hans Daniel Johan= Wallengren -- is likely turning over in his grave -- as he's lost (the= only??) two species named after him.</div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeGran= d<br></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class= =3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:50 AM Salman Abdulali <<a href= =3D"mailto:<salman.abdulali...>"><salman.abdulali...></a>> w= rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p= x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style= =3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Another change in Pelham=E2=80=99s catalog:= <div><br></div><div>Wallengrenia is now a subgenus of Polites. The two Brok= en-Dashes are Polites otho and Polites egeremet.</div><div><br></div><div>S= alman Abdulali</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb= 8, 2021, at 1:56 PM, Harry LeGrand <<a href=3D"mailto:hlegrandjr@gmail.= com" target=3D"_blank"><hlegrandjr...></a>> wrote:</div><br><div><d= iv dir=3D"ltr"><div>Technically, yes, it is too late to get into the 28th A= pproximation -- though Tom could re-do it with the 4 revised pages.=C2=A0 b= ut, it's probably not worth doing, as that is simply a name change, and= not some substantial data change that we feel is needed before we bother w= ith "upsetting the apple cart".<br></div><div><br></div><div>What= I have just done -- <b>I went into each of the 4 species accounts and edit= ed the name from Speyeria xxxxx to now Argynnis xxxxx.</b>=C2=A0 So, when y= ou go to a species page on the website:</div><div><br></div><div>
<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://auth1.dpr.ncparks.gov/nbnc/a= /accounts.php__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorzX= sHkjFNzUEF0PQkCYM$" target=3D"_blank">Butterflies of North Carolina (ncpark= s.gov)</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>you will see the new name -- Argyn= nis diana, for example, with Speyeria diana as the synonym.=C2=A0 And, if y= ou click on the PDF for each of the four species (Diana, Great Spangled, Ap= hrodite, and Regal), you will see the new name on the PDF.=C2=A0 So, for ex= ample, if you printed out a paper set of the 28th, if you want you can prin= t out each of these 4 pages and replace them in your spiral binder, etc.=C2= =A0 (I simply saved the 28th to my computer, as most of you may have done.= =C2=A0 So, I'm going to leave that alone.)</div><div><br></div><div>FYI= -- here is the link to the revised Pelham catalogue, now dates as revised = to 28 January 2021.=C2=A0 I bookmark this on my computer, in case I want to= get to it easily.<br></div><div><br></div><div>
<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/= US-Can-Cat.htm__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorz= XsHkjFNzUEF7aF9SkM$" target=3D"_blank">A Catalogue of the Butterflies of th= e United States and Canada by Jonathan P. Pelham (butterfliesofamerica.com)= </a>
</div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeGrand<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm= ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 12:= 14 AM Salman Abdulali <<a href=3D"mailto:<salman.abdulali...>" tar= get=3D"_blank"><salman.abdulali...></a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquo= te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px = solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>It may be too late for t= he 28th, but Pelham has updated his catalog. The only one of these changes = adopted is to treat <i>Speyeria</i> as a subgenus of <i>Argynnis</i>.<div><= br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><i style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helve= tica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Simonsen, (2006), Biol. J. Linn. Soc. = 89(4): 627-673 and Simonsen=C2=A0et al. (2006), Insect Syst. Evol. 37(4): 4= 05-418, made compelling arguments that=C2=A0Speyeria=C2=A0is a synonym of= =C2=A0Argynnis. Zhang et al. (2020), Tax. Rep. Int. Lepid. Surv. 8(7): 17, = fig. 10, completed the task and is adopted here</i></blockquote><div><br></= div><div>Salman<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 29, 2020,= at 8:00 PM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <<a href=3D"m= ailto:<carolinaleps...>" target=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>>= ; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks, maybe!</div><div><br><= /div><div>For the next approximation of the <u>Butterflies of North Carolin= a</u> (28th) PDF, as well as the website, I plan to wait until, or if, Pelh= am follows these names in his checklist, which is now the most often follow= ed list for scientific names and taxonomic sequence.=C2=A0 His last update = was 7 August 2020.=C2=A0 (It does not provide common names.)<br></div><div>= <br></div><div>Harry LeGrand<br></div><div><br></div><div>
<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/= US-Can-Cat.htm__;!!OToaGQ!7VZbwPNameGiOWgdgCKrGE45ZHgUX92lDFwrPpB4z_8z0C1gf= m5bMVGYwtkN1X7rYJ4$" target=3D"_blank">A Catalogue of the Butterflies of th= e United States and Canada by Jonathan P. Pelham (butterfliesofamerica.com)= </a>
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_= attr">On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 11:43 AM Salman Abdulali <<a href=3D"mailt= o:<carolinaleps...>" target=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>> wr= ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px= 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Genomi= c evidence suggests further changes of butterfly names<div>Jing Zhang, Qian= Cong, Jinhui Shen, Paul A. Opler=C2=A0and Nick V. Grishin<br><div><a href= =3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/ttr= -8-7.pdf__;!!OToaGQ!61GMDrezq2Pg2OzyM4OjTDzys_h3GxtECB62IrtiTLDI1mfAhgUC3zz= WP6Ff63j1l4s$" target=3D"_blank">http://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/tt= r-8-7.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>According to the authors:</div><div>= <br></div><div><i>Speyeria</i> is a subgenus of <i>Argynnis</i>.</div><div>= <br></div><div>The North and South American populations of the Gulf Fritill= ary are separate species. The North American species is=C2=A0<i>Dione incar= nata</i>.</div><div><br></div><div><i>Polygonia</i> is a subgenus of <i>Nym= phalis</i>.</div><div><br></div></div><div>Salman Abdulali</div><div>Greenv= ille, NC</div></div></blockquote></div> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div> </div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
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