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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 10:20:09 -0400
From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: more name changes?

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OK. I just made this name change on the Butterflies of North Carolina
website now.
Looking at Pelham 2021, this change does NOT change the checklist order,
thankfully:

Tawny-edged Skipper (Polites themistocles)
Peck's Skipper (P. peckius)
Southern Broken-dash (P. otho)
Northern Broken-dash (P.egeremet)
Little Glassywing (Vernia verna)

Note that the seemingly very similar Crossline Skipper was moved out of
Polites about 2 years ago to Limochores -- not that I remember that new
name!

The only troubling thing is that I fear that Mr. Wallengren -- presumably
Hans Daniel Johan Wallengren -- is likely turning over in his grave -- as
he's lost (the only??) two species named after him.

Harry LeGrand


On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:50 AM Salman Abdulali <salman.abdulali...>
wrote:

> Another change in Pelham=E2=80=99s catalog:
>
> Wallengrenia is now a subgenus of Polites. The two Broken-Dashes are
> Polites otho and Polites egeremet.
>
> Salman Abdulali
>
>
> On Feb 8, 2021, at 1:56 PM, Harry LeGrand <hlegrandjr...> wrote:
>
> Technically, yes, it is too late to get into the 28th Approximation --
> though Tom could re-do it with the 4 revised pages. but, it's probably n=
ot
> worth doing, as that is simply a name change, and not some substantial da=
ta
> change that we feel is needed before we bother with "upsetting the apple
> cart".
>
> What I have just done -- *I went into each of the 4 species accounts and
> edited the name from Speyeria xxxxx to now Argynnis xxxxx.* So, when you
> go to a species page on the website:
>
> Butterflies of North Carolina (ncparks.gov)
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://auth1.dpr.ncparks.gov/nbnc/a/account=
s.php__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorzXsHkjFNzU=
EF0PQkCYM$ >
>
> you will see the new name -- Argynnis diana, for example, with Speyeria
> diana as the synonym. And, if you click on the PDF for each of the four
> species (Diana, Great Spangled, Aphrodite, and Regal), you will see the n=
ew
> name on the PDF. So, for example, if you printed out a paper set of the
> 28th, if you want you can print out each of these 4 pages and replace them
> in your spiral binder, etc. (I simply saved the 28th to my computer, as
> most of you may have done. So, I'm going to leave that alone.)
>
> FYI -- here is the link to the revised Pelham catalogue, now dates as
> revised to 28 January 2021. I bookmark this on my computer, in case I wa=
nt
> to get to it easily.
>
> A Catalogue of the Butterflies of the United States and Canada by Jonathan
> P. Pelham (butterfliesofamerica.com)
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/US-Can-C=
at.htm__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorzXsHkjFNz=
UEF7aF9SkM$ >
>
> Harry LeGrand
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 12:14 AM Salman Abdulali <
> <salman.abdulali...> wrote:
>
>> It may be too late for the 28th, but Pelham has updated his catalog. The
>> only one of these changes adopted is to treat *Speyeria* as a subgenus
>> of *Argynnis*.
>>
>> *Simonsen, (2006), Biol. J. Linn. Soc. 89(4): 627-673 and Simonsen et al.
>> (2006), Insect Syst. Evol. 37(4): 405-418, made compelling arguments
>> that Speyeria is a synonym of Argynnis. Zhang et al. (2020), Tax. Rep. I=
nt.
>> Lepid. Surv. 8(7): 17, fig. 10, completed the task and is adopted here*
>>
>>
>> Salman
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing
>> List) <carolinaleps...> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, maybe!
>>
>> For the next approximation of the *Butterflies of North Carolina* (28th)
>> PDF, as well as the website, I plan to wait until, or if, Pelham follows
>> these names in his checklist, which is now the most often followed list =
for
>> scientific names and taxonomic sequence. His last update was 7 August
>> 2020. (It does not provide common names.)
>>
>> Harry LeGrand
>>
>> A Catalogue of the Butterflies of the United States and Canada by
>> Jonathan P. Pelham (butterfliesofamerica.com)
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/US-Can-=
Cat.htm__;!!OToaGQ!7VZbwPNameGiOWgdgCKrGE45ZHgUX92lDFwrPpB4z_8z0C1gfm5bMVGY=
wtkN1X7rYJ4$>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 11:43 AM Salman Abdulali <carolinaleps...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Genomic evidence suggests further changes of butterfly names
>>> Jing Zhang, Qian Cong, Jinhui Shen, Paul A. Opler and Nick V. Grishin
>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/ttr=
-8-7.pdf__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorzXsHkjF=
NzUEFDt_8XmY$=20
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/tt=
r-8-7.pdf__;!!OToaGQ!61GMDrezq2Pg2OzyM4OjTDzys_h3GxtECB62IrtiTLDI1mfAhgUC3z=
zWP6Ff63j1l4s$>
>>>
>>> According to the authors:
>>>
>>> *Speyeria* is a subgenus of *Argynnis*.
>>>
>>> The North and South American populations of the Gulf Fritillary are
>>> separate species. The North American species is *Dione incarnata*.
>>>
>>> *Polygonia* is a subgenus of *Nymphalis*.
>>>
>>> Salman Abdulali
>>> Greenville, NC
>>>
>>
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>OK.=C2=A0 I just made this name change on the Butterf=
lies of North Carolina website now.=C2=A0 <br></div><div>Looking at Pelham =
2021, this change does NOT change the checklist order, thankfully:</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Tawny-edged Skipper (Polites themistocles)<br></div><div>P=
eck&#39;s Skipper (P. peckius)</div><div>Southern Broken-dash (P. otho)</di=
v><div>Northern Broken-dash (P.egeremet)</div><div>Little Glassywing (Verni=
a verna)</div><div><br></div><div>Note that the seemingly very similar Cros=
sline Skipper was moved out of Polites about 2 years ago to Limochores -- n=
ot that I remember that new name!</div><div><br></div><div>The only troubli=
ng thing is that I fear that Mr. Wallengren -- presumably Hans Daniel Johan=
Wallengren -- is likely turning over in his grave -- as he&#39;s lost (the=
only??) two species named after him.</div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeGran=
d<br></div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:50 AM Salman Abdulali &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:<salman.abdulali...>"><salman.abdulali...></a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style=
=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Another change in Pelham=E2=80=99s catalog:=
<div><br></div><div>Wallengrenia is now a subgenus of Polites. The two Brok=
en-Dashes are Polites otho and Polites egeremet.</div><div><br></div><div>S=
alman Abdulali</div><div><br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Feb=
8, 2021, at 1:56 PM, Harry LeGrand &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hlegrandjr@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank"><hlegrandjr...></a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div>Technically, yes, it is too late to get into the 28th A=
pproximation -- though Tom could re-do it with the 4 revised pages.=C2=A0 b=
ut, it&#39;s probably not worth doing, as that is simply a name change, and=
not some substantial data change that we feel is needed before we bother w=
ith &quot;upsetting the apple cart&quot;.<br></div><div><br></div><div>What=
I have just done -- <b>I went into each of the 4 species accounts and edit=
ed the name from Speyeria xxxxx to now Argynnis xxxxx.</b>=C2=A0 So, when y=
ou go to a species page on the website:</div><div><br></div><div>

<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://auth1.dpr.ncparks.gov/nbnc/a=
/accounts.php__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorzX=
sHkjFNzUEF0PQkCYM$" target=3D"_blank">Butterflies of North Carolina (ncpark=
s.gov)</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>you will see the new name -- Argyn=
nis diana, for example, with Speyeria diana as the synonym.=C2=A0 And, if y=
ou click on the PDF for each of the four species (Diana, Great Spangled, Ap=
hrodite, and Regal), you will see the new name on the PDF.=C2=A0 So, for ex=
ample, if you printed out a paper set of the 28th, if you want you can prin=
t out each of these 4 pages and replace them in your spiral binder, etc.=C2=
=A0 (I simply saved the 28th to my computer, as most of you may have done.=
=C2=A0 So, I&#39;m going to leave that alone.)</div><div><br></div><div>FYI=
-- here is the link to the revised Pelham catalogue, now dates as revised =
to 28 January 2021.=C2=A0 I bookmark this on my computer, in case I want to=
get to it easily.<br></div><div><br></div><div>

<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/=
US-Can-Cat.htm__;!!OToaGQ!8nvcMELQeWpSAOOrvXB7_Htw0hI7mdovX1OeZlmhmp0IWvorz=
XsHkjFNzUEF7aF9SkM$" target=3D"_blank">A Catalogue of the Butterflies of th=
e United States and Canada by Jonathan P. Pelham (butterfliesofamerica.com)=
</a>

</div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeGrand<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 12:=
14 AM Salman Abdulali &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<salman.abdulali...>" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><salman.abdulali...></a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div>It may be too late for t=
he 28th, but Pelham has updated his catalog. The only one of these changes =
adopted is to treat <i>Speyeria</i> as a subgenus of <i>Argynnis</i>.<div><=
br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><i style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Simonsen, (2006), Biol. J. Linn. Soc. =
89(4): 627-673 and Simonsen=C2=A0et al. (2006), Insect Syst. Evol. 37(4): 4=
05-418, made compelling arguments that=C2=A0Speyeria=C2=A0is a synonym of=
=C2=A0Argynnis. Zhang et al. (2020), Tax. Rep. Int. Lepid. Surv. 8(7): 17, =
fig. 10, completed the task and is adopted here</i></blockquote><div><br></=
div><div>Salman<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 29, 2020,=
at 8:00 PM, Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:<carolinaleps...>" target=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>&gt=
; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thanks, maybe!</div><div><br><=
/div><div>For the next approximation of the <u>Butterflies of North Carolin=
a</u> (28th) PDF, as well as the website, I plan to wait until, or if, Pelh=
am follows these names in his checklist, which is now the most often follow=
ed list for scientific names and taxonomic sequence.=C2=A0 His last update =
was 7 August 2020.=C2=A0 (It does not provide common names.)<br></div><div>=
<br></div><div>Harry LeGrand<br></div><div><br></div><div>

<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.butterfliesofamerica.com/=
US-Can-Cat.htm__;!!OToaGQ!7VZbwPNameGiOWgdgCKrGE45ZHgUX92lDFwrPpB4z_8z0C1gf=
m5bMVGYwtkN1X7rYJ4$" target=3D"_blank">A Catalogue of the Butterflies of th=
e United States and Canada by Jonathan P. Pelham (butterfliesofamerica.com)=
</a>

</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 11:43 AM Salman Abdulali &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:<carolinaleps...>" target=3D"_blank"><carolinaleps...></a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Genomi=
c evidence suggests further changes of butterfly names<div>Jing Zhang, Qian=
Cong, Jinhui Shen, Paul A. Opler=C2=A0and Nick V. Grishin<br><div><a href=
=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/ttr=
-8-7.pdf__;!!OToaGQ!61GMDrezq2Pg2OzyM4OjTDzys_h3GxtECB62IrtiTLDI1mfAhgUC3zz=
WP6Ff63j1l4s$" target=3D"_blank">http://lepsurvey.carolinanature.com/ttr/tt=
r-8-7.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div>According to the authors:</div><div>=
<br></div><div><i>Speyeria</i> is a subgenus of <i>Argynnis</i>.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>The North and South American populations of the Gulf Fritill=
ary are separate species. The North American species is=C2=A0<i>Dione incar=
nata</i>.</div><div><br></div><div><i>Polygonia</i> is a subgenus of <i>Nym=
phalis</i>.</div><div><br></div></div><div>Salman Abdulali</div><div>Greenv=
ille, NC</div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>

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