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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 11:11:16 -0400
From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: Bladen County Butterflies-April 6

I usually have found them reasonably abundant a few miles away in the Bladen=
Lakes State Forest near some Carolina bay pocosin stands. I=E2=80=99ve nev=
er had much luck with butterflies at Bay Tree. Glad to see Palamedes Swallow=
tails are still abundant there =E2=80=94 for the time being.=20

I think you meant to say Ilex glabra or Ilex coriacea. I. vomitoria is Yaup=
on Holly, mainly a coastal plant. The other 2 are dominant pocosin shrubs.=20=

Enjoy Colorado and figuring out C. echo there. Maybe it is the only azure th=
ere in spring. I know you will enjoy the birds and other butterflies more!

Harry LeGrand

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> On Apr 6, 2021, at 8:19 PM, Jan Hansen <carolinaleps...> wrote:
> =EF=BB=BFI made a trip down to the Bay Tree Lake State Natural area this m=
orning, with the specific goal in mind of studying and photographing Holly A=
zures. I won=E2=80=99t say the trip was a bust as I did encounter 8 Holly Az=
ures in the nearly 3 hours I spent there, but they were certainly not abunda=
nt and also flighty and uncooperative for photos. The area has scads of Ilex=
vomitoria and zero Ilex opaca, and between the abundance of this host plant=
and the scarcity of spring form Summer Azure in the Coastal Plain, I felt c=
omfortable that the azures present at this site would be Holly. I was hoping=
to then be able to compare my photos with previous photos I have of spring f=
orm Summer Azures, and along with information previously provided by Harry P=
and Harry L, attempt to come up with some relatively diagnostic sight crite=
ria that might be useful in areas where both species occur. But as the sayin=
g goes=E2=80=A6.the best laid plans=E2=80=A6.and you know the rest. However f=
rom the poor photos I did obtain and from the observations I made, I was abl=
e to discern three characters that jived with field marks for Holly Azure me=
ntioned by Harry Pavulaan:
> 1) The dark markings on the underside of the wings seem reduced and fewer i=
n number than on Summer Azure photos I have taken.
> 2) There were no dark edges on the margins of the hindwing, which I see in=
my spring form Summer Azure photos
> 3) They appeared to be noticeably smaller than spring form Summer Azure.
> I=E2=80=99m sure we will all be happy later in the year when the only azur=
es flying will be Summer! Unfortunately I=E2=80=99ll have to deal with Echo A=
zure in a few weeks during my trip to Colorado. Perhaps we should rename the=
whole complex the Inescapable Azure.=20
> Complete list for today is as follows:
> Eastern Tiger Swallowtail-3
> Spicebush Swallowtail-9
> Palamedes Swallowtail-28
> Cloudless Sulphur-3
> Sleepy Orange-1
> Red-banded Hairstreak-1
> Holly Azure-8
> Sleepy Duskywing-2
> Jan Hansen
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