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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 13:09:57 -0400
From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: 9/10/21 Mt. Mitchell -- dismal numbers

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That's not a good count of Green Commas!

As for the "Fiery" Skippers (2), the photo -- at a poor angle -- looks like
a male Sachem to me. I don't see black spikes on the hind wing margin, and
it looks about what I might expect for Sachem. I think I see a large black
stigma on the FW, but the angle is poor. I'd be a bit surprised to see
Fiery Skippers well over 6000 feet elevation.

Remember, everyone -- try to photograph skippers, and butterflies in
general, from the side, or the top, not the front or back. Quite hard for
other folks to identify species from front or back -- as opposed to
identifying humans, from the front and less so the back. =F0=9F=98=89

Harry LeGrand

PS -- Clouded Skipper is the correct name.


On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 12:48 PM Heather Rayburn <carolinaleps...>
wrote:

> Yesterday, Gail Lankford, Ben Gillum and I spent four hours hiking the
> Commissary Trail at Mt. Mitchell. Here=E2=80=99s what we counted:
>
> Eastern Tiger Swallowtail
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/=
51447855245/in/dateposted-public/__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_=
alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlDyIX9Nc$> =E2=80=94
> 4 (one of those was the black form)(this pic screams September!)
> Fiery Skipper
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/=
51447695524/in/dateposted-public/__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_=
alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlv8W0Wos$> =E2=80=94
> 2 (fresh, fresh, fresh!)
> Red Admiral =E2=80=94 1
> Eastern Tailed-Blue
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/=
51447853755/in/dateposted-public/__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_=
alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlKiOiqAM$> =E2=80=94
> 5
> Summer Azure =E2=80=94 1
> Buckeye =E2=80=94 1
> Cloudy Skipper
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/=
51447893460/in/dateposted-public/__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_=
alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlLIWF5Kw$> =E2=80=94
> 2 (super-fresh =E2=80=A6 I didn=E2=80=99t notice the spider until I looke=
d at the pic at
> home.)
>
> Another notable:
> Red Squirrel
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_red_s=
quirrel__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SY=
KMBlbzHXWaI$> aka
> =E2=80=9CBoomer"
>
>
> *Heather Rayburn*
> On Flickr
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/=
__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlaxz=
UlIk$>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>That&#39;s not a good count of Green Commas!</div><di=
v><br></div><div>As for the &quot;Fiery&quot; Skippers (2), the photo -- at=
a poor angle -- looks like a male Sachem to me.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t see blac=
k spikes on the hind wing margin, and it looks about what I might expect fo=
r Sachem.=C2=A0 I think I see a large black stigma on the FW, but the angle=
=C2=A0 is poor.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I&#39;d be a bit surprised to see Fiery Skipper=
s well over 6000 feet elevation.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>Rememb=
er, everyone -- try to photograph skippers, and butterflies in general, fro=
m the side, or the top, not the front or back.=C2=A0 Quite hard for other f=
olks to identify species from front or back -- as opposed to identifying hu=
mans, from the front and less so the back. =F0=9F=98=89</div><div><br></div=
><div>Harry LeGrand</div><div><br></div><div>PS -- Clouded Skipper is the c=
orrect name.<br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 12:48 PM Heath=
er Rayburn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>"><carolinaleps...>=
du</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>Yesterday, Gail Lankford, =
Ben Gillum and I spent four hours hiking the Commissary Trail at Mt. Mitche=
ll. Here=E2=80=99s what we counted:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"htt=
ps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/514478=
55245/in/dateposted-public/__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_alkYF_=
-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlDyIX9Nc$" target=3D"_blank">Eastern Tiger Swallowta=
il</a>=C2=A0=E2=80=94 4 (one of those was the black form)(this pic screams =
September!)</div><div><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.fl=
ickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/51447695524/in/dateposted-public/__;!!OToaGQ!=
5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlv8W0Wos$" targe=
t=3D"_blank">Fiery Skipper</a>=C2=A0=E2=80=94 2 (fresh, fresh, fresh!)</div=
><div>Red Admiral =E2=80=94 1</div><div><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v=
3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/51447853755/in/dateposted-p=
ublic/__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYK=
MBlKiOiqAM$" target=3D"_blank">Eastern Tailed-Blue</a>=C2=A0=E2=80=94 5</di=
v><div>Summer Azure =E2=80=94 1</div><div>Buckeye =E2=80=94 1</div><div><a =
href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870=
@N03/51447893460/in/dateposted-public/__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu0=
8sY-_alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlLIWF5Kw$" target=3D"_blank">Cloudy Skipp=
er</a>=C2=A0=E2=80=94 2 (super-fresh =E2=80=A6 I didn=E2=80=99t notice the =
spider until I looked at the pic at home.)</div><div><br></div><div>Another=
notable:</div><div><a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.wikip=
edia.org/wiki/American_red_squirrel__;!!OToaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY=
-_alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlbzHXWaI$" target=3D"_blank">Red Squirrel</a=
>=C2=A0aka =E2=80=9CBoomer&quot;</div><div><br></div><br><div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spacing:normal;text-alig=
n:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing=
:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align:start;text=
-indent:0px"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align:start;text-indent:0px"><=
div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"text-align:start;text-indent:0px"><div dir=3D"aut=
o" style=3D"text-align:start;text-indent:0px"><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0=
);letter-spacing:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing=
:0px;text-decoration:none"><b>Heather Rayburn</b></div><div><a href=3D"http=
s://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/photos/190206870@N03/__;!!OT=
oaGQ!5uEU4aqT9PGKAS6Y-ezbJGQu08sY-_alkYF_-qB2xwUBFiRaM5YpC9SYKMBlaxzUlIk$" =
target=3D"_blank">On Flickr=C2=A0</a></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);l=
etter-spacing:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0p=
x;text-decoration:none"><br></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);letter-spa=
cing:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-de=
coration:none"><br></div></div><br></div><br></div><br></div><br></div><br>=
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