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Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 17:58:12 -0400
From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: Wilmington Area Sightings & Arlie Zebra Longwings

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Lior had e-mailed me a few days ago about the "Zebra issue", saying to me
basically what is written here. So, as the "caretaker" of NC butterfly
records for the Butterflies of NC website, I have a dilemma, of course!! I
will go ahead and include all of these records from Airlie in 2021, with
the understanding that certainly this number (26) did not all get here from
SC, GA, or FL in 2021. And I agree that one or a few must have escaped
earlier in the year and mated (inside or outside the house), and females
laid eggs on passionflower, later producing more adults. Of course, Airlie
is the perfect place for a stray to find and eventually breed, if it can
find a mate, etc.

I mentioned to Lior that -- I wish the butterfly house ALSO contained Blue
Morphos, Kite Swallowtails, and other exotics -- they supposedly only have
native eastern US species -- as a control. Then, if we were to see such
exotic species OUTSIDE the house, we would know 100% that butterflies are
escaping, even though these would not survive long periods outdoors here.
Though it DOES sound appropriate and ethical for the Airlie Gardens
butterfly house to only host native species, as the website says, you can
see the problems this causes -- especially with no staffing to make sure
butterflies are not escaping.

I can certainly delete records from my Excel file before the end of the
year -- depending on various comments. Again, it is almost certain all of
these butterflies did not descend from Zebras that migrated into the state
earlier in the year. And, since NO Zebras were seen in 2009 in Carteret
County following the big 2008 brood, it is highly unlikely the species can
overwinter in coastal NC. Also, hardly any Zebras have been seen in the SW
Piedmont of NC, where there were many reported last summer and fall.


Too bad about not finding Little Metalmarks. Most folks can find one to
several at this time of year (but no previous 2021 trip reports there), but
they are tiny and easy to overlook. And, last year the Wildlife Resources
Commission did some disastrous COVID burns -- burning BOTH sides of Lodge
Road at the same time, presumably owing to staff shortages and wanting to
get as many acres burned as possible in 2020. That is a disaster for
insect populations, with no refugia left unburned. Several of us did find
4 of them last fall, despite a ton of effort. Hopefully, 2022 will be
better for them and other butterflies there. We do want them to burn, but
scattered blocks and never both sides of a road at about the same time of
year.

Glad you did get a fair number of lifers. Phaon Crescent is a good find at
Holly Shelter, and I'm aware of maybe just one previous record. There are
stands of Frogfruit there. Most folks see them at Fort Fisher along the
old airstrip near the museum.

Harry LeGrand
Raleigh

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 5:27 PM "Lior Carlson" <carolinaleps...>
wrote:

> Fellow Butterflies,
> John and I went searching for Queen butterflies at Fort Fisher State
> Recreation Area last week on 9/7 & 9/8 and we managed to check off some
> species from our lifetime lists.
>
> We saw the posts about Zebra Longwings at Arlie so we popped in to see the
> Zebras. While there we encountered a frequent visitor who commented he saw
> one
> or two free flying outside in the gardens during the spring. Then slowly
> over
> the months he'd see more and more.
>
> In the area where they were concentrated we found two very large
> passionflower
> vines. I observed a pair fluttering together in courtship. We didn't see
> any
> caterpillars.
>
> It's reasonable to suspect that Zebras in the butterfly house escaped and
> have
> been breeding. The butterfly house is not supervised. There's just a sign
> instructing people to use the double doors to prevent escapes and to check
> for
> hitchhiking butterflies before leaving.
>
> Weather was mostly agreeable on Tuesday morning until noon. Wednesday was
> good
> for Holly Shelter. We didn't find the Little Metalmark we hoped to see,
> however it was nice to see a Great Purple Hairstreak.
>
> Links to photos from each day after sign off. Lists after links to photos.
> I've not had a chance to add IDs or the photos of the Zebras.
>
> Happy Butterflying,
> Lior Carlson
>
> Photos from Tuesday: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/p=
hotos/shrone/shares/k0JWY7__;!!OToaGQ!8ascSrX-t98N2akBieKm6Up8NHoM52JIeE3ey=
asB9AuRiblB6kgL6j2BTpmesbYg0IU$=20
>
> Photos from Wednesday:https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.flickr.com/=
photos/shrone/shares/5Qt4rP__;!!OToaGQ!8ascSrX-t98N2akBieKm6Up8NHoM52JIeE3e=
yasB9AuRiblB6kgL6j2BTpme2CgmqV0$=20
>
> Fort Fisher 9/7/21
> Juniper HS - 1
> Queen -14
> Salt Marsh Skipper - 60
> Cloudless Sulphur - 12 (+32 driving)
> Ocola - 1
> Eastern Giant Swallowtail - 1
> Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing - 1
> Delaware Skipper - 1
>
> Wilmington Arboretum 9/7/21
> Long-tailed Skipper - 9
> Silver-spotted Skipper - 6
> Ocola Skipper - 4
> Whirlabout Skipper - 3
> Monarch - 2
> Gulf Fritillary - 1
> Grey HS - 5
>
> Wilmington Arboretum 9/8/21
> Gulf Fritillary - 15
> Ocola - 8
> Long-tailed Skipper - 22
> Silver-spotted Skipper - 6
> Fiery Skipper - 11
> Whirlabout Skipper - 2
> Cloudless Sulphur - 5
> Monarch - 12
> Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing - 1
> Sachem Skipper -2
>
> Airlie Gardens 9/8/21
> Ocola - 2
> Cloudless Sulphur - 11
> Long-tailed Skipper - 23
> Fiery Skipper - 9
> Gulf Fritillary - 11
> Common Buckeye - 2
> Little Glassywing -1
> Zebra Longwing - 26
> Silver-spotted Skipper - 10
> Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing - 1
> Monarch - 1
> Sleepy Orange - 1
> Pearl Crescent - 2
> Black Swallowtail - 2
>
> Holly Shelter Game Lands
> Cloudless Sulphur - 12
> Grey HS - 7
> Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing - 13
> Common Buckeye - 27
> Ocala - 20
> Pearl Crescent - 2
> Red-banded HS - 8
> Easterm-tailed Blue - 2
> Palamedes Swallowtail - 1
> Northern Broken-dash - 3
> Fiery Skipper - 1
> Gulf Fritillary - 1
> Long-tailed Skipper - 2
> Eufala Skipper - 1
> Black Swallowtail - 6
> Great Purple HS - 1
> Sleepy Orange - 1
> Phaon Crescent - 1
> Red-spotted Purple - 1
> Zarucco Duskywing - 3
> Unknown Duskywing - 2
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Lior had e-mailed me a few days ago about the &quot;Z=
ebra issue&quot;, saying to me basically what is written here.=C2=A0 So, as=
the &quot;caretaker&quot; of NC butterfly records for the Butterflies of N=
C website, I have a dilemma, of course!!=C2=A0 I will go ahead and include =
all of these records from Airlie in 2021, with the understanding that certa=
inly this number (26) did not all get here from SC, GA, or FL in 2021.=C2=
=A0 And I agree that one or a few must have escaped earlier in the year and=
mated (inside or outside the house), and females laid eggs on passionflowe=
r, later producing more adults.=C2=A0 Of course, Airlie is the perfect plac=
e for a stray to find and eventually breed, if it can find a mate, etc.=C2=
=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>I mentioned to Lior that -- I wish the bu=
tterfly house ALSO contained Blue Morphos, Kite Swallowtails, and other exo=
tics -- they supposedly only have native eastern US species -- as a control=
.=C2=A0 Then, if we were to see such exotic species OUTSIDE the house, we w=
ould know 100% that butterflies are escaping, even though these would not s=
urvive long periods outdoors here.=C2=A0 Though it DOES sound appropriate a=
nd ethical for the Airlie Gardens butterfly house to only host native speci=
es, as the website says, you can see the problems this causes -- especially=
with no staffing to make sure butterflies are not escaping.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>I can certainly delete records from my Excel file before the end=
of the year -- depending on various comments. Again, it is almost certain =
all of these butterflies did not descend from Zebras that migrated into the=
state earlier in the year.=C2=A0 And, since NO Zebras were seen in 2009 in=
Carteret County following the big 2008 brood, it is highly unlikely the sp=
ecies can overwinter in coastal NC.=C2=A0 Also, hardly any Zebras have been=
seen in the SW Piedmont of NC, where there were many reported last summer =
and fall.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Too bad about not finding=
Little Metalmarks.=C2=A0 Most folks can find one to several at this time o=
f year (but no previous 2021 trip reports there), but they are tiny and eas=
y to overlook.=C2=A0 And, last year the Wildlife Resources Commission did s=
ome disastrous COVID burns -- burning BOTH sides of Lodge Road at the same =
time, presumably owing to staff shortages and wanting to get as many acres =
burned as possible in 2020.=C2=A0 That is a disaster for insect populations=
, with no refugia left unburned.=C2=A0 Several of us did find 4 of them las=
t fall, despite a ton of effort.=C2=A0 Hopefully, 2022 will be better for t=
hem and other butterflies there.=C2=A0 We do want them to burn, but scatter=
ed blocks and never both sides of a road at about the same time of year.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Glad you did get a fair number of lifers.=C2=A0 Phao=
n Crescent is a good find at Holly Shelter, and I&#39;m aware of maybe just=
one previous record.=C2=A0 There are stands of Frogfruit there.=C2=A0 Most=
folks see them at Fort Fisher along the old airstrip near the museum.<br><=
/div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeGrand</div><div>Raleigh<br></div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, S=
ep 12, 2021 at 5:27 PM &quot;Lior Carlson&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:carol=
<inaleps...>"><carolinaleps...></a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Fellow Butterflies,<br>
John and I went searching for Queen butterflies at Fort Fisher State<br>
Recreation Area last week on 9/7 &amp; 9/8 and we managed to check off some=
<br>
species from our lifetime lists.<br>
<br>
We saw the posts about Zebra Longwings at Arlie so we popped in to see the<=
br>
Zebras. While there we encountered a frequent visitor who commented he saw =
one<br>
or two free flying outside in the gardens during the spring. Then slowly ov=
er<br>
the months he&#39;d see more and more.<br>
<br>
In the area where they were concentrated we found two very large passionflo=
wer<br>
vines. I observed a pair fluttering together in courtship. We didn&#39;t se=
e any<br>
caterpillars.<br>
<br>
It&#39;s reasonable to suspect that Zebras in the butterfly house escaped a=
nd have<br>
been breeding. The butterfly house is not supervised. There&#39;s just a si=
gn<br>
instructing people to use the double doors to prevent escapes and to check =
for<br>
hitchhiking butterflies before leaving.<br>
<br>
Weather was mostly agreeable on Tuesday morning until noon. Wednesday was g=
ood<br>
for Holly Shelter. We didn&#39;t find the Little Metalmark we hoped to see,=
<br>
however it was nice to see a Great Purple Hairstreak.<br>
<br>
Links to photos from each day after sign off. Lists after links to photos.<=
br>
I&#39;ve not had a chance to add IDs or the photos of the Zebras.<br>
<br>
Happy Butterflying,<br>
Lior Carlson<br>
<br>
Photos from Tuesday: <a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.fli=
ckr.com/photos/shrone/shares/k0JWY7__;!!OToaGQ!8ascSrX-t98N2akBieKm6Up8NHoM=
52JIeE3eyasB9AuRiblB6kgL6j2BTpmesbYg0IU$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://www.flickr.com/photos/shrone/shares/k0JWY7</a><br>
<br>
Photos from Wednesday:<a href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.fl=
ickr.com/photos/shrone/shares/5Qt4rP__;!!OToaGQ!8ascSrX-t98N2akBieKm6Up8NHo=
M52JIeE3eyasB9AuRiblB6kgL6j2BTpme2CgmqV0$" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/shrone/shares/5Qt4rP</a><br>
<br>
Fort Fisher 9/7/21<br>
Juniper HS - 1<br>
Queen -14<br>
Salt Marsh Skipper - 60<br>
Cloudless Sulphur - 12 (+32 driving)<br>
Ocola - 1<br>
Eastern Giant Swallowtail - 1<br>
Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing - 1<br>
Delaware Skipper - 1<br>
<br>
Wilmington Arboretum 9/7/21<br>
Long-tailed Skipper - 9<br>
Silver-spotted Skipper - 6<br>
Ocola Skipper - 4<br>
Whirlabout Skipper - 3<br>
Monarch - 2<br>
Gulf Fritillary - 1<br>
Grey HS - 5<br>
<br>
Wilmington Arboretum 9/8/21<br>
Gulf Fritillary - 15<br>
Ocola - 8<br>
Long-tailed Skipper - 22<br>
Silver-spotted Skipper - 6<br>
Fiery Skipper - 11<br>
Whirlabout Skipper - 2<br>
Cloudless Sulphur - 5<br>
Monarch - 12<br>
Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing - 1<br>
Sachem Skipper -2<br>
<br>
Airlie Gardens 9/8/21<br>
Ocola - 2<br>
Cloudless Sulphur - 11<br>
Long-tailed Skipper - 23<br>
Fiery Skipper - 9<br>
Gulf Fritillary - 11<br>
Common Buckeye - 2<br>
Little Glassywing -1<br>
Zebra Longwing - 26<br>
Silver-spotted Skipper - 10<br>
Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing - 1<br>
Monarch - 1<br>
Sleepy Orange - 1<br>
Pearl Crescent - 2<br>
Black Swallowtail - 2<br>
<br>
Holly Shelter Game Lands<br>
Cloudless Sulphur - 12<br>
Grey HS - 7<br>
Horace=E2=80=99s Duskywing - 13<br>
Common Buckeye - 27<br>
Ocala - 20<br>
Pearl Crescent - 2<br>
Red-banded HS - 8<br>
Easterm-tailed Blue - 2<br>
Palamedes Swallowtail - 1<br>
Northern Broken-dash - 3<br>
Fiery Skipper - 1<br>
Gulf Fritillary - 1<br>
Long-tailed Skipper - 2<br>
Eufala Skipper - 1<br>
Black Swallowtail - 6<br>
Great Purple HS - 1<br>
Sleepy Orange - 1<br>
Phaon Crescent - 1<br>
Red-spotted Purple - 1<br>
Zarucco Duskywing - 3<br>
Unknown Duskywing - 2<br>
</blockquote></div>

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