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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:14:41 -0400
From: Josh <opihi...>
Subject: Re: [MassLep] : Unknown Cat


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The caterpillar is definitely what Ashley said; I don=E2=80=99t think there=
=E2=80=99s any other species that remotely resembles it. It=E2=80=99s kind =
of dissonant how the adult moth is so much less colorful than its larva, ba=
sically just a variety of shades of brown.=20

The plant was formerly in the genus Aster, but that genus was so huge that =
botanists fragmented it into several smaller genera. The species in Joe=E2=
=80=99s photo, and many other local species, are now in the genus Symphyotr=
ichum, which GoBotany calls the American-Asters (which still includes 27 sp=
ecies in New England alone):=20

https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/genus/symphyotrichum/

Cheers,

Josh



Joshua S. Rose, Ph.D.
Amherst, MA
https://www.facebook.com/opihi

Vice-president, Hampshire Bird Club
https://hampshirebirdclub.org/

Northeast Chapter head, Dragonfly Society of the Americas
https://www.dragonflysocietyamericas.org/northeastdsa

Citizen science pages:
http://bugguide.net/user/view/2399
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/opihiman
https://ebird.org/profile/MTk1MTQw/US-MA=20



> On Sep 28, 2021, at 10:06 PM, <iqsocial...> wrote:
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> Is that aster it=E2=80=99s on? Looks like this:
> https://bugguide.net/node/view/6725 <https://bugguide.net/node/view/6725>
>=20
> Beautiful caterpillar.
>=20
> Ashley
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>> On Sep 28, 2021, at 21:54, 'Joe Mal' via MassLep <masslep...>=
om> wrote:
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>> =EF=BB=BF
>> My brother sent me these photos, asking for help with an ID.
>> Thank you for any help that you can offer.
>> We live in Chelsea, MA. He works in NH.
>>=20
>> Subject: Unknown Cat
>>=20
>> Can you ID this one?
>>=20
>> <IMG_3785.jpg>
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>> <IMG_3786.jpg>
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=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: s=
pace; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">The caterp=
illar is definitely what Ashley said; I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s=
any other species that remotely resembles it. It=E2=80=99s kind of dissona=
nt how the adult moth is so much less colorful than its larva, basically ju=
st a variety of shades of brown.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D"">=
</div><div class=3D"">The plant was formerly in the genus <i class=3D"">Ast=
er</i>, but that genus was so huge that botanists fragmented it into severa=
l smaller genera. The species in Joe=E2=80=99s photo, and many other local =
species, are now in the genus <i class=3D"">Symphyotrichum</i>, which GoBot=
any calls the American-Asters (which still includes 27 species in New Engla=
nd alone):&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">=
&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/genus/symphyotrichum=
/" class=3D"">https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/genus/symphyotrichum/</=
a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><=
div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Josh</div><div class=3D=
""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><br class=3D""=
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e-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-al=
ign: start; text-indent: 0px;">Joshua S. Rose, Ph.D.<br class=3D"">Amherst,=
MA</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-tr=
ansform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-=
width: 0px; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;"><a href=3D"https://www.fa=
cebook.com/opihi" class=3D"">https://www.facebook.com/opihi</a><br class=3D=
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ansform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-=
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; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; t=
ext-align: start; text-indent: 0px;">Vice-president, Hampshire Bird Club</d=
iv><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transfor=
m: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width:=
0px; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;"><a href=3D"https://hampshirebir=
dclub.org/" class=3D"">https://hampshirebirdclub.org/</a></div><div style=
=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; whit=
e-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-al=
ign: start; text-indent: 0px;"><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"color: rg=
b(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: norm=
al; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-align: start; t=
ext-indent: 0px;">Northeast Chapter head, Dragonfly Society of&nbsp;the Ame=
ricas</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-=
transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-strok=
e-width: 0px; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;"><a href=3D"https://www.=
dragonflysocietyamericas.org/northeastdsa" class=3D"">https://www.dragonfly=
societyamericas.org/northeastdsa</a></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0)=
; letter-spacing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-s=
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ing: normal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;">Citiz=
en science pages:</div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: n=
ormal; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webki=
t-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;"><a href=3D"=
http://bugguide.net/user/view/2399" class=3D"">http://bugguide.net/user/vie=
w/2399</a></div><div style=3D"text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;"><a href=
=3D"https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/opihiman" class=3D"">https://w=
ww.inaturalist.org/observations/opihiman</a></div><div style=3D"text-align:=
start; text-indent: 0px;"><a href=3D"https://ebird.org/profile/MTk1MTQw/US=
-MA" class=3D"">https://ebird.org/profile/MTk1MTQw/US-MA</a>&nbsp;</div><di=
v style=3D"text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;"><br class=3D""></div></div=
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<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On=
Sep 28, 2021, at 10:06 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:<iqsocial...>" class=3D"=
"><iqsocial...></a> wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline=
"><div class=3D""><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; c=
harset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" cl=
ass=3D"">Is that aster it=E2=80=99s on? &nbsp;Looks like this:</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D""><a href=3D"https://bugguide.net/node/view/6725" class=
=3D"">https://bugguide.net/node/view/6725</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Beautiful caterpilla=
r.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"">Ashley</div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On Sep 28, 2021, at 21:54, 'Joe Mal' via MassLep=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<masslep...>" class=3D"">masslep@googleg=
roups.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></blockquote></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:darkgreen;font: 10pt Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-se=
rif;" class=3D"">My brother sent me these photos, asking for help with an I=
D.<br class=3D"">
Thank you for any help that you can offer.
<div class=3D"">We live in Chelsea, MA.&nbsp; He works in NH.<br class=3D""=
>

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Subject: Unknown Cat<br class=3D"">
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Can &nbsp;you ID this one?<br class=3D"">

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<div class=3D"">&lt;IMG_3785.jpg&gt;</div></div>


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<div class=3D"">&lt;IMG_3786.jpg&gt;</div></div>

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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">Paul&nbsp;</div>

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