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| List: NorWest Leps Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 07:42:39 -0600 From: Norbert Kondla <nkondla...> Subject: Re: [NorWestLeps] [DesertLeps] Celastrina name 'quesnellii' |
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--00000000000094880005ddf373d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It has been many years since I last saw the Palearctic species Celastrina argiolus applied to North America. I think it was about 27 or28 years ago that I stopped believing in a holarctic Celastrina species. On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 5:10 AM Leroy C. Koehn <leptraps...> wrote: > I have been an active Lepidopterists since the mid 1960's, and even before > as a young teenager. I have spent most of my life in the eastern half of > the USA. The little blue spring time butterfly, Celastrina argiolus, or > Spring azure, has always interested me and most other Lepidopterists east > of the Mississippi River. I have almost two Cornell Drawers full of > specimens. There are currently a dozen or more specimen on Spreading Boards > that I collected this spring including four females and a miniature male I > collected this past Monday near the Mantua Wetlands area east of my home. > > I beleive that Celastrina argiolus is a survivor from ancient times. We as > human beings only began to collect and study Lepidoptera a few centuries > ago. I think that the Lepidopterists of the future will still have the same > interest in Celastrina argiolus that we do today. > > Later this month I will venture up to the Thompson Habor area in the Lower > Peninsula of Michigan to collect Celastrina argiolis and other spring > species. My last visit in 2012 produced a Bilateral gynandromorph of > Celastrina argiolus. > > We typically find or notice Celastrina argiolus in the spring. We may > notice them again later in the Season but seldom collect a specimen. > > Just my thoughts. > > And, it would be interesting to see specimens from west of the Mississippi > River posted here on Desert Leps. > > I envy you guys who live and collect in the Rocky Mountains to the west > coast of California. There is much to be learned and discovered. > > Cheers, > Leroy > ------------------------------ > On Friday, April 29, 2022 Norbert Kondla <DesertLeps...>; > <nkondla...> wrote: > Today I was asked how the name quesnellii fits into the Celastrina > picture. In case anyone else is wondering about that, here is a link to a > paper that talks about the matter: > > https://images.peabody.yale.edu/lepsoc/jls/2000s/2003/2003-57(2)150-Guppy.pdf > > -- > Norbert Kondla > Calgary, Alberta, Canada (elevation 1060 metres asl) > https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/ > > > > -- Norbert Kondla Calgary, Alberta, Canada (elevation 1060 metres asl) https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#10898): https://groups.io/g/NorWestLeps/message/10898 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/90814416/795800 Group Owner: NorWestLeps+<owner...> Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/NorWestLeps/leave/4559582/795800/778100922/xyzzy [<lists...>] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --00000000000094880005ddf373d7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">It has been many years since I last saw the Palearctic spe= cies Celastrina argiolus applied to North America. I think it was about 27 = or28 years ago that I stopped believing in a holarctic Celastrina species.<= /div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O= n Sun, May 1, 2022 at 5:10 AM Leroy C. Koehn <<a href=3D"mailto:leptraps= @aol.com"><leptraps...></a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma= il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2= 04,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">I have been an active Lepidopteris= ts since the mid 1960's, and even before as a young teenager. I have sp= ent most of my life in the eastern half of the USA. The little blue spring = time butterfly, Celastrina argiolus, or Spring azure, has always interested= me and most other Lepidopterists east of the Mississippi River. I have alm= ost two Cornell Drawers full of specimens. There are currently a dozen or m= ore specimen on Spreading Boards that I collected this spring including fou= r females and a miniature male I collected this past Monday near the Mantua= Wetlands area east of my home. </p> <p dir=3D"ltr">I beleive that Celastrina argiolus is a survivor from ancien= t times. We as human beings only began to collect and study Lepidoptera a f= ew centuries ago. I think that the Lepidopterists of the future will still = have the same interest in Celastrina argiolus that we do today.</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">Later this month I will venture up to the Thompson Habor are= a in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan to collect Celastrina argiolis and oth= er spring species. My last visit in 2012 produced a Bilateral=C2=A0 gynandr= omorph of Celastrina argiolus.</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">We typically find or notice Celastrina argiolus in the sprin= g. We may notice them again later in the Season but seldom collect a specim= en.</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">Just my thoughts.</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">And, it would be interesting to see specimens from west of t= he Mississippi River posted here on Desert Leps.</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">I envy you guys who live and collect in the Rocky Mountains = to the west coast of California. There is much to be learned and discovered= .</p> <p dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,<br> Leroy</p> <div></div><hr style=3D"border:0px;height:1px;color:rgb(153,153,153);backgr= ound-color:rgb(153,153,153);width:100%;margin:0px 0px 9px;padding:0px"><spa= n style=3D"font-size:14px;color:rgb(153,153,153)">On Friday, April 29, 2022= Norbert Kondla <<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,160)"><a href=3D"mailto:De= <sertLeps...>" target=3D"_blank"><DesertLeps...>= ps.io</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:<nkondla...>" target=3D"_blank">nkondla@t= elus.net</a></span>> wrote:</span><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_364534137379596= 429yiv8549876142"><div dir=3D"ltr">Today I was asked how the name quesnelli= i fits into the Celastrina picture. In case anyone else is wondering about = that, here is a link to a paper that talks about the matter:<div><a rel=3D"= nofollow noopener noreferrer" href=3D"https://images.peabody.yale.edu/lepso= c/jls/2000s/2003/2003-57(2)150-Guppy.pdf" target=3D"_blank">https://images.= peabody.yale.edu/lepsoc/jls/2000s/2003/2003-57(2)150-Guppy.pdf</a><br clear= =3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Norbert Ko= ndla<div>Calgary, Alberta, Canada=C2=A0 (elevation 1060 metres asl)</div><d= iv><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/p= hotos/118126948@N03/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/11812= 6948@N03/</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div> =20 <p></p><p></p></div></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- = <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Norbert Kon= dla<div>Calgary, Alberta, Canada=C2=A0 (elevation 1060 metres asl)</div><di= v><a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/" target=3D"_blank= ">https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/</a><br></div><div><br></div>= </div></div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> G= roups.io Links:<p> You receive all messages sent to this group. <p> <a= target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/NorWestLeps/message/10898">V= iew/Reply Online (#10898)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:NorWes= <tLeps...>?subject=3DRe:%20Re%3A%20%5BNorWestLeps%5D%20%5BDesertLeps%5= D%20Celastrina%20name%20%27quesnellii%27">Reply To Group</a> | <a target= =3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:<nkondla...>?subject=3DPrivate:%20Re:%20Re%= 3A%20%5BNorWestLeps%5D%20%5BDesertLeps%5D%20Celastrina%20name%20%27quesnell= ii%27">Reply To Sender</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups= .io/mt/90814416/795800">Mute This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io= /g/NorWestLeps/post">New Topic</a><br> <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/No= rWestLeps/editsub/795800">Your Subscription</a> | <a href=3D"mailto:NorWest= Leps+<owner...>">Contact Group Owner</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.= io/g/NorWestLeps/leave/4559582/795800/778100922/xyzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [li= <sts...>]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:bo= th">_._,_._,_</div>=20 --00000000000094880005ddf373d7-- |
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