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Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 07:42:39 -0600
From: Norbert Kondla <nkondla...>
Subject: Re: [NorWestLeps] [DesertLeps] Celastrina name 'quesnellii'

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It has been many years since I last saw the Palearctic species Celastrina
argiolus applied to North America. I think it was about 27 or28 years ago
that I stopped believing in a holarctic Celastrina species.

On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 5:10 AM Leroy C. Koehn <leptraps...> wrote:

> I have been an active Lepidopterists since the mid 1960's, and even before
> as a young teenager. I have spent most of my life in the eastern half of
> the USA. The little blue spring time butterfly, Celastrina argiolus, or
> Spring azure, has always interested me and most other Lepidopterists east
> of the Mississippi River. I have almost two Cornell Drawers full of
> specimens. There are currently a dozen or more specimen on Spreading Boards
> that I collected this spring including four females and a miniature male I
> collected this past Monday near the Mantua Wetlands area east of my home.
>
> I beleive that Celastrina argiolus is a survivor from ancient times. We as
> human beings only began to collect and study Lepidoptera a few centuries
> ago. I think that the Lepidopterists of the future will still have the same
> interest in Celastrina argiolus that we do today.
>
> Later this month I will venture up to the Thompson Habor area in the Lower
> Peninsula of Michigan to collect Celastrina argiolis and other spring
> species. My last visit in 2012 produced a Bilateral gynandromorph of
> Celastrina argiolus.
>
> We typically find or notice Celastrina argiolus in the spring. We may
> notice them again later in the Season but seldom collect a specimen.
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> And, it would be interesting to see specimens from west of the Mississippi
> River posted here on Desert Leps.
>
> I envy you guys who live and collect in the Rocky Mountains to the west
> coast of California. There is much to be learned and discovered.
>
> Cheers,
> Leroy
> ------------------------------
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 Norbert Kondla <DesertLeps...>;
> <nkondla...> wrote:
> Today I was asked how the name quesnellii fits into the Celastrina
> picture. In case anyone else is wondering about that, here is a link to a
> paper that talks about the matter:
>
> https://images.peabody.yale.edu/lepsoc/jls/2000s/2003/2003-57(2)150-Guppy.pdf
>
> --
> Norbert Kondla
> Calgary, Alberta, Canada (elevation 1060 metres asl)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/
>
>
>
>

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Norbert Kondla
Calgary, Alberta, Canada (elevation 1060 metres asl)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/


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<div dir=3D"ltr">It has been many years since I last saw the Palearctic spe=
cies Celastrina argiolus applied to North America. I think it was about 27 =
or28 years ago that I stopped believing in a holarctic Celastrina species.<=
/div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Sun, May 1, 2022 at 5:10 AM Leroy C. Koehn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:leptraps=
@aol.com"><leptraps...></a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">I have been an active Lepidopteris=
ts since the mid 1960&#39;s, and even before as a young teenager. I have sp=
ent most of my life in the eastern half of the USA. The little blue spring =
time butterfly, Celastrina argiolus, or Spring azure, has always interested=
me and most other Lepidopterists east of the Mississippi River. I have alm=
ost two Cornell Drawers full of specimens. There are currently a dozen or m=
ore specimen on Spreading Boards that I collected this spring including fou=
r females and a miniature male I collected this past Monday near the Mantua=
Wetlands area east of my home. </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I beleive that Celastrina argiolus is a survivor from ancien=
t times. We as human beings only began to collect and study Lepidoptera a f=
ew centuries ago. I think that the Lepidopterists of the future will still =
have the same interest in Celastrina argiolus that we do today.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Later this month I will venture up to the Thompson Habor are=
a in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan to collect Celastrina argiolis and oth=
er spring species. My last visit in 2012 produced a Bilateral=C2=A0 gynandr=
omorph of Celastrina argiolus.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">We typically find or notice Celastrina argiolus in the sprin=
g. We may notice them again later in the Season but seldom collect a specim=
en.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Just my thoughts.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">And, it would be interesting to see specimens from west of t=
he Mississippi River posted here on Desert Leps.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">I envy you guys who live and collect in the Rocky Mountains =
to the west coast of California. There is much to be learned and discovered=
.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,<br>
Leroy</p>
<div></div><hr style=3D"border:0px;height:1px;color:rgb(153,153,153);backgr=
ound-color:rgb(153,153,153);width:100%;margin:0px 0px 9px;padding:0px"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:14px;color:rgb(153,153,153)">On Friday, April 29, 2022=
Norbert Kondla &lt;<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,160)"><a href=3D"mailto:De=
<sertLeps...>" target=3D"_blank"><DesertLeps...>=
ps.io</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:<nkondla...>" target=3D"_blank">nkondla@t=
elus.net</a></span>&gt; wrote:</span><br><div id=3D"gmail-m_364534137379596=
429yiv8549876142"><div dir=3D"ltr">Today I was asked how the name quesnelli=
i fits into the Celastrina picture. In case anyone else is wondering about =
that, here is a link to a paper that talks about the matter:<div><a rel=3D"=
nofollow noopener noreferrer" href=3D"https://images.peabody.yale.edu/lepso=
c/jls/2000s/2003/2003-57(2)150-Guppy.pdf" target=3D"_blank">https://images.=
peabody.yale.edu/lepsoc/jls/2000s/2003/2003-57(2)150-Guppy.pdf</a><br clear=
=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Norbert Ko=
ndla<div>Calgary, Alberta, Canada=C2=A0 (elevation 1060 metres asl)</div><d=
iv><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/p=
hotos/118126948@N03/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/11812=
6948@N03/</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>


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<br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Norbert Kon=
dla<div>Calgary, Alberta, Canada=C2=A0 (elevation 1060 metres asl)</div><di=
v><a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/" target=3D"_blank=
">https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/</a><br></div><div><br></div>=
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