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Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 10:40:07 -0400
From: Harry LeGrand (via carolinaleps Mailing List) <carolinaleps...>
Subject: Re: Charleston Co., SC Great Southern White

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Impressive immigration (or flight of locally breeding adults) on the way!
Maybe a few will reach the NC coast, so folks in the Brunswick and New
Hanover counties region (and farther north near the coast) should *keep an
eye out for any white butterflies within a mile or two of the coast.*
Interestingly, we have NO state records for these two most southern coastal
counties! I actually expect -- because it is a rather large and
conspicuous species -- that if NC does get a 2022 record or two, it will
likely come from a photographer snapping a photo of a white butterfly on a
lantana or other flower, not knowing what it is, and posting to
iNaturalist! That website DOES suggest an identification once a photo is
uploaded, so that actually gives the photographer an answer before it is
officially posted there.

I have seen a few in southern Florida and southern Texas, and I have often
had long and anxious waiting periods for them to land. I'm glad Dennis and
Donna had a good handful actually nectaring. No one in NC has ever found a
Great Southern White by intentionally searching for one; the roughly 5
records are all strays, a few seen ONLY in flight (by people who need to be
familiar with similar species to want to post such a report). We do have
one photographed, by Bob Cavanaugh, nectaring in his Carteret County yard,
way back in August 2002.

Harry LeGrand

PS -- The winds in NC since about Sunday have been strong and from the
north to east, poor for moving the species northward along the coast. But,
starting in a few days, we WILL get our typical late spring and summer
southerly winds returning, so that should help. Also note that this
species DOES lay eggs in SC and can produce a new spring brood, and that
might well be the case here, as Tom Austin monitors this species in the
southern marshes in SC. So, even though they do not lay eggs in NC, we can
still get some migrants up here. I sure would love to see one in NC, as we
all would!

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:02 AM Dennis Forsythe <carolinaleps...>
wrote:

> All,
>
> Recently Tom Austin had Great Southern Whites on Edisto Island and
> southern Charleston County. Alison Smith had 5+ Great Southern Whites at
> the Lighthouse HP, Folly Beach two days ago. Yesterday Donna and I spent
> the afternoon on Folly Beach. We had 4+ Great Southern Whites at the
> County Park; 2 on the drive from the South to the North end of the island;
> and 8+ on lantana at the entrance to the Lighthouse HP. All told, we think
> we saw 16 Great Southern Whites.
>
> Good butterflying,
>
> Dennis
>
> --
> Dennis M. Forsythe PhD
> Emeritus Professor of Biology
> The Citadel
> 171 Moultrie St,
> Charleston, SC 29409
> 843.795.3996-home
> 843.953.7264-fax
> 843.708.1605-cell
> <dennis.forsythe...>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Impressive immigration (or flight of locally breeding=
adults) on the way!=C2=A0 Maybe a few will reach the NC coast, so folks in=
the Brunswick and New Hanover counties region (and farther north near the =
coast) should <u>keep an eye out for any white butterflies within a mile or=
two of the coast.</u>=C2=A0 Interestingly, we have NO state records for th=
ese two most southern coastal counties!=C2=A0 I actually expect -- because =
it is a rather large and conspicuous species -- that if NC does get a 2022 =
record or two, it will likely come from a photographer snapping a photo of =
a white butterfly on a lantana or other flower, not knowing what it is, and=
posting to iNaturalist! That website DOES suggest an identification once a=
photo is uploaded, so that actually gives the photographer an answer befor=
e it is officially posted there.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>I have=
seen a few in southern Florida and southern Texas, and I have often had lo=
ng and anxious waiting periods for them to land.=C2=A0 I&#39;m glad Dennis =
and Donna had a good handful actually nectaring. No one in NC has ever foun=
d a Great Southern White by intentionally searching for one; the roughly 5 =
records are all strays, a few seen ONLY in flight (by people who need to be=
familiar with similar species to want to post such a report).=C2=A0 We do =
have one photographed, by Bob Cavanaugh, nectaring in his Carteret County y=
ard, way back in August 2002.=C2=A0 <br></div><div><br></div><div>Harry LeG=
rand</div><div><br></div><div>PS -- The winds in NC since about Sunday have=
been strong and from the north to east, poor for moving the species northw=
ard along the coast.=C2=A0 But, starting in a few days, we WILL get our typ=
ical late spring and summer southerly winds returning, so that should help.=
=C2=A0 Also note that this species DOES lay eggs in SC and can produce a ne=
w spring brood, and that might well be the case here, as Tom Austin monitor=
s this species in the southern marshes in SC.=C2=A0 So, even though they do=
not lay eggs in NC, we can still get some migrants up here.=C2=A0 I sure w=
ould love to see one in NC, as we all would!<br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 12, 2022=
at 8:02 AM Dennis Forsythe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<carolinaleps...>">ca=
<rolinaleps...></a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>All,</div><div><br></div><div>Rece=
ntly Tom Austin had Great Southern Whites on Edisto Island and southern Cha=
rleston County.=C2=A0 Alison Smith had 5+ Great Southern Whites at the Ligh=
thouse HP, Folly Beach two days ago.=C2=A0 Yesterday Donna and I spent the =
afternoon on Folly Beach.=C2=A0 We had 4+ Great Southern Whites at the Coun=
ty Park; 2 on the drive from the South to the North end of the island; and =
8+ on lantana at the entrance to the Lighthouse HP.=C2=A0 All told, we thin=
k we saw 16 Great Southern Whites.</div><div><br></div><div>Good butterflyi=
ng,</div><div><br></div><div>Dennis<br></div><div><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Denn=
is M. Forsythe PhD<div>Emeritus Professor of Biology<br></div><div>The Cita=
del</div><div><div><div>171 Moultrie St,<br>Charleston, SC 29409<br>843.795=
.3996-home<br>843.953.7264-fax<br>843.708.1605-cell<br><a href=3D"mailto:de=
<nnis.forsythe...>" target=3D"_blank"><dennis.forsythe...></a></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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