List: NorWest Leps
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:30:50 -0700
From: mcallisters4 <mcallisters4...> Subject: Re: [NorWestLeps] Puget Blues at West Rocky Prairie |
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Thanks Caitlin. The butterfly in the first picture struck me as a vibrant s= hiny blue and I thought it was likely a Silvery Blue. It was also some dist= ance away from the larger patches of sickle-keeled lupine (not sure that me= ans anything since Silvery Blues are probably using it as much as the Puget= Blues). So, it was only after I had the pictures on my computer that I cou= ld see enough of the ventral hind wing to know it was a Puget Blue. I guess= I=E2=80=99m feeling uncomfortable about the highly variable hues of blue, = in males, being very useful to differentiate these two species. Maybe I=E2= =80=99ll feel differently after more experience.
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From: <NorWestLeps...> <NorWestLeps...> On Behalf Of Caitlin La= Bar Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2022 11:22 PM To: <NorWestLeps...> Subject: Re: [NorWestLeps] Puget Blues at West Rocky Prairie
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Yes those are all icarioides blackmorei. Male Silvery Blues don=E2=80=99t h= ave much of a brown edge between the blue and the wing fringe, while icario= ides almost always have a noticeable brown margin, and blackmorei in partic= ular can have a very wide margin, I=E2=80=99ve seen up to a third of the wi= ng, making them look almost like a female.
As to color tint, icarioides is usually a dusty lavender while lygdamus has= a bright glint (i.e. silvery), but photo angle can affect that, such as yo= ur first Flickr photo that looks super bright. It has a wide brown margin t= hough and you can see enough of the ventral to make out the fuzziness of ic= arioides rather than more sharp spots on lygdamus.
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Puget blues are definitely known from all over Rocky Prairie but I don=E2= =80=99t know what the most recent records are.
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<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr= osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns=3D"http:= //www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content= =3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft= Word 15 (filtered medium)"><!--[if !mso]><style>v\:* {behavior:url(#defaul= t#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style><![endif]--><style><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Helvetica; panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif; color:windowtext;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;} @page WordSection1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} --></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit"> <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vli= nk=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p cla= ss=3DMsoNormal>Thanks Caitlin. The butterfly in the first picture struck me= as a vibrant shiny blue and I thought it was likely a Silvery Blue. It was= also some distance away from the larger patches of sickle-keeled lupine (n= ot sure that means anything since Silvery Blues are probably using it as mu= ch as the Puget Blues). So, it was only after I had the pictures on my comp= uter that I could see enough of the ventral hind wing to know it was a Puge= t Blue. I guess I=E2=80=99m feeling uncomfortable about the highly variable= hues of blue, in males, being very useful to differentiate these two speci= es. Maybe I=E2=80=99ll feel differently after more experience.<o:p></o:p></= p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Kelly<o:p>= </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style=3D'border:no= ne;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMso= Normal><b>From:</b> <NorWestLeps...> <<NorWestLeps...>> <b>= On Behalf Of </b>Caitlin LaBar<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 21, 2022 11:22= PM<br><b>To:</b> <NorWestLeps...><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NorWestLeps= ] Puget Blues at West Rocky Prairie<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNorma= l><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yes those are all icarioides bl= ackmorei. Male Silvery Blues don=E2=80=99t have much of a brown edge betwee= n the blue and the wing fringe, while icarioides almost always have a notic= eable brown margin, and blackmorei in particular can have a very wide margi= n, I=E2=80=99ve seen up to a third of the wing, making them look almost lik= e a female.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>As to color tint, icari= oides is usually a dusty lavender while lygdamus has a bright glint (i.e. s= ilvery), but photo angle can affect that, such as your first Flickr photo t= hat looks super bright. It has a wide brown margin though and you can see e= nough of the ventral to make out the fuzziness of icarioides rather than mo= re sharp spots on lygdamus.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><= o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Puget blues are definit= ely known from all over Rocky Prairie but I don=E2=80=99t know what the mos= t recent records are.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&n= bsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Caitlin <o:p></o:p></p><= /div><p class=3DMsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><= div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p = class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-= serif;color:black'>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span><span style=3D'fon= t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></= span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0= pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Personal: <a href= =3D"mailto:<caitlinlabar...>" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D'font-si= ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1155CC'>caitlinlabar@gmail.= com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span s= tyle=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Bu= siness: <a href=3D"mailto:<northwestbutterflies...>" target=3D"_blank"= ><northwestbutterflies...></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p= class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",= sans-serif;color:black'>Info: <a href=3D"http://northwestbutterflies.b= logspot.com/" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-ser= if;color:#3A65BB'>northwestbutterflies.blogspot.com</span></a></span><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><= o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si= ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Sales: <a href=3D= "http://northwestbutterflies.com" target=3D"_blank">northwestbutterflies.co= m</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>= </div></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal></o:p></span></p></div></= div></body></html>
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