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Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 19:50:32 -0600
From: Norbert Kondla <nkondla...>
Subject: Re: [NorWestLeps] [TILS] Mourning Cloak (Nymphalis antiopa)

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I forgot to mention that there is a European website devoted to
Trauermantel aka Mourning Cloak.
https://www.trauermantel.de/
If you don't read German, the website gives the option of viewing it with
English language.

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFPM Norbert Kondla via groups.io <nkond=
la=3D
<telus.net...> wrote:

> I think the butterfly brightness and color saturation is an imaging
> artifact. I have seen a lot of Nymphalis antiopa hyperborea alive and und=
er
> bright sunlight. I have never seen one that looks like this one. Here are=
a
> couple of pics of live hyperborea that are more consistent with what I se=
e
> in nature:
> fresh summer bug: https://flic.kr/p/2nGJVTU
> hibernated spring bug: https://flic.kr/p/2oyLLT7
> Although hyperborea does live in the northwestern portion of North
> America; it is present across the northern part of our continent. Here is=
a
> little comparison graphic, created with specimen images that are
> objectively (mathematically) correct in terms of photographic exposure:
> https://flic.kr/p/QNyuFG
> Many additional Cloak images are available in my Mourning Cloak album on
> flickr:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/albums/72157642797352014
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 11:53=E2=80=AFAM Joe Morlan <jmorlan...> w=
rote:
>
>> 20 May 2023. Emily Renzel Wetlands, Palo Alto, CA, USA.
>>
>> This appears to be an extreme example of the northwestern subspecies "N.
>> a.
>> hyperboria" with a reddish cocoa color rather than the dark chocolate of
>> those from eastern North America (N. a. lintnerii) or the almost black o=
f
>> examples from Eurasia (N. a. antiopa). However the validity of these
>> subspecies remains uncertain. In England where this species is a migrant=
,
>> it is commonly known by the name "Camberwell Beauty."
>>
>> Reference:
>>
>> https://leplog.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/mourning-cloak-variation/
>>
>> Stay well!
>>
>> --
>> Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA
>> "It turns out we're very good at not seeing things" - Jack Hitt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Norbert Kondla
> Calgary, Alberta, Canada (elevation 1060 metres asl)
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I forgot to mention that there is a European website devot=
ed to Trauermantel aka Mourning Cloak.<div><a href=3D"https://www.trauerman=
tel.de/">https://www.trauermantel.de/</a><br></div><div>If you don&#39;t re=
ad German, the website gives the option of viewing it with English language=
.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFPM Norbert Kondla via <a href=
=3D"http://groups.io">groups.io</a> &lt;nkondla=3D<a href=3D"mailto:telus.n=
<et...>"><telus.net...></a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I think the butterfly bri=
ghtness and color saturation is an imaging artifact. I have seen a lot of N=
ymphalis antiopa hyperborea alive and under bright sunlight. I have never s=
een one that looks like this one. Here are a couple of pics of live hyperbo=
rea that are more consistent with what I see in nature:<div>fresh summer bu=
g:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://flic.kr/p/2nGJVTU" target=3D"_blank">https://fli=
c.kr/p/2nGJVTU</a></div><div>hibernated spring bug:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https:/=
/flic.kr/p/2oyLLT7" target=3D"_blank">https://flic.kr/p/2oyLLT7</a></div><d=
iv>Although hyperborea does live in the northwestern portion of North Ameri=
ca; it is present across the northern part of our continent. Here is a litt=
le comparison graphic, created with specimen images that are objectively (m=
athematically) correct in terms of photographic exposure:=C2=A0<a href=3D"h=
ttps://flic.kr/p/QNyuFG" target=3D"_blank">https://flic.kr/p/QNyuFG</a></di=
v><div>Many additional Cloak images are available in my Mourning Cloak albu=
m on flickr:</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N=
03/albums/72157642797352014" target=3D"_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photo=
s/118126948@N03/albums/72157642797352014</a><br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, May 25, 2023=
at 11:53=E2=80=AFAM Joe Morlan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:<jmorlan...>" ta=
rget=3D"_blank"><jmorlan...></a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">20 May 2023. Emily Renzel Wetlands, Palo A=
lto, CA, USA.<br>
<br>
This appears to be an extreme example of the northwestern subspecies &quot;=
N. a.<br>
hyperboria&quot; with a reddish cocoa color rather than the dark chocolate =
of<br>
those from eastern North America (N. a. lintnerii) or the almost black of<b=
r>
examples from Eurasia (N. a. antiopa). However the validity of these<br>
subspecies remains uncertain. In England where this species is a migrant,<b=
r>
it is commonly known by the name &quot;Camberwell Beauty.&quot;<br>
<br>
Reference:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://leplog.wordpress.com/2014/03/17/mourning-cloak-variation=
/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://leplog.wordpress.com/2014/0=
3/17/mourning-cloak-variation/</a><br>
<br>
Stay well!<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA<br>
&quot;It turns out we&#39;re very good at not seeing things&quot; - Jack Hi=
tt<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_si=
gnature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Norbert Kondla<div>Calgary, Alberta, Canada=C2=A0 (elevation=
1060 metres asl)</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126=
948@N03/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/118126948@N03/</a=
><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>




<p></p><p></p></blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div><span cla=
ss=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Norbert Kondla<div>Calgary, Alberta, Canada=C2=
=A0 (elevation 1060 metres asl)</div><div><a href=3D"https://www.flickr.com=
/photos/118126948@N03/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/118=
126948@N03/</a><br></div><div><br></div></div></div>


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